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    St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Prosecutor Robert McCulloch knew some of the witnesses were lying when they testified before the grand jury. Yet, he doesn't intend to bring charges of perjury against any one.

    St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Some witnesses were clearly lying when they spoke to a grand jury about the August police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., according to St. Louis County prosecuting attorney Robert McCulloch. In an interview about the case Friday, the prosecutor says he won't seek perjury charges.
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    Lying Under Oath And Perjury

    "It's a legitimate issue. But in the situation — again, because of the manner in which we did it — we're not going to file perjury charges against anyone. There were people who came in and yes, absolutely lied under oath. Some lied to the FBI — even though they're not under oath, that's another potential offense, a federal offense.

    "But I thought it was much more important to present the entire picture and say listen, this is what this witness says he saw — even though there was a building between where the witness says he was and where the events occurred, so they couldn't have seen that. Or the physical evidence didn't support what the witness was saying. And it went both directions. ...
    HOW in hell can presenting knowingly false evidence to a jury be considered to "present the entire picture"??

    More on the legal and ethical violations found in McCulloch's actions:

    According to Missouri Rules of Professional Conduct, RULE 4-3.3, “A lawyer shall not knowingly offer evidence that the lawyer knows to be false.” The next sentence would seem to support disbarrment hearing for McColluch and other attorneys who knew witnesses were lying. 'If a lawyer, the lawyer’s client, or a witness called by the lawyer has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal."

    There is no evidence in the documents released by the St. Louis County prosecutor’s office after the grand jury decision that McCulloch or anyone from his office ever told the jurors to regard any specific witness statements as less credible than others.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Dorian Johnson's testimony was nothing but lies and is what fueled the initial riots and perpetuated the false narrative that he was killed for being black.

    No charges against him apparently ( there should be )

    MBs step Father inciting a riot and there's no charges.

    Its BS

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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    If charges were to be enacted on these people, riots would continue.
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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    If charges were to be enacted on these people, riots would continue.
    Really? The most blatant lies came from Witness 40 who was the only one who fully corroborated Officer Wilson's story.

    "Witness 40": Exposing A Fraud In Ferguson
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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Really? The most blatant lies came from Witness 40 who was the only one who fully corroborated Officer Wilson's story.

    "Witness 40": Exposing A Fraud In Ferguson
    It isn't about what actually happened. In these peoples' eyes, he is guilty, and the testimony from someone in their own community is Truth. Nothing else to it. I know, it is wrong, but it is the way it is.
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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Dorian Johnson's testimony was nothing but lies and is what fueled the initial riots and perpetuated the false narrative that he was killed for being black.

    No charges against him apparently ( there should be )

    MBs step Father inciting a riot and there's no charges.

    Its BS

    You rant and rail against some people but ignore the point of this thread - the prosecutor KNEW about the lies and didn't bother to tell the grand juy - WHY?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Really? The most blatant lies came from Witness 40 who was the only one who fully corroborated Officer Wilson's story.

    "Witness 40": Exposing A Fraud In Ferguson
    The forensics, science, and 3 autopsies including the independent autopsy conducted at the families request all confirmed the testimony of 7 other individuals that back the officers story. Yet you ignore those realities and the lies told by people that support the story you like. Speaks volumes...about you.

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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The forensics, science, and 3 autopsies including the independent autopsy conducted at the families request all confirmed the testimony of 7 other individuals that back the officers story. Yet you ignore those realities and the lies told by people that support the story you like. Speaks volumes...about you.
    I don't think you've been reading the same documents I've read. Some witnesses, not seven, verified PARTS of Wilson's story though not ALL of it. Sixteen witnesses said Michael Brown had his hands up when Wilson fired at him. Sixteen also testified that Brown was running away when Wilson first fired at him - not the same sixteen in every case. Only one witness said Brown did not have his hands up when shot, four witnesses said Wilson did not shoot at Brown when he was running away.

    IN the autopsies, there was one wound in Brown's arm that could have resulted from being hit from running away, the wound in the top of his head shows that he was either falling or already down when that shot hit him.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    If charges were to be enacted on these people, riots would continue.
    That's no excuse to not press charges.

    Apparently if we get a Mob together thats big enough there are no laws ?

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    Re: St. Louis Grand Jury Heard Witnesses Who Lied, Prosecutor Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You rant and rail against some people but ignore the point of this thread - the prosecutor KNEW about the lies and didn't bother to tell the grand juy - WHY?
    You're the one ranting here, not me.

    You're willing to ignore the OBVIOUS perjury that led to the violence and destruction so you can continue to push this ridiculous " killed by Cop " narrative.

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