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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    To blame the USA about it is to be naive and ignorant.

    The Pakistani govt has been fighting their version of the taliban for a long time now.
    Their taliban are afghan nationalists. Or better say, Pashto unionists. A significant part of Pakistan is part of the Pashto etnolinguistic gorup. The primary language of Afghanistan is Pashto. the people of Afghanistan are, well, pashtun. And as I explained above, a significant part of Pakistan is also pashtun. They are a (the largest or 2nd largest) minority in Pakistan as the majority of Pakistanis are, well, indians. Punjabi indians but not hindu but muslims.

    The taliban in Pakistan aren't like the taliban in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan, they are fighting for an islamic state. In pakistan, they are fighting for cultural union because they don't want to be ruled by other people who care little for them.
    Not only did the Pakistani govt treat the afghani refugees from the afghan-soviet war horribly, they are treating the pakistani pashtun horribly too.

    So be clear. Pakistan is a mess. Right now there is massive civil unrest in the capital for a whole host of reasons. It's an oppressive regime that treats the pashtun, and others, very poorly. Barluchistan, the largest region in Pakistan, is subjected to poor governance, corruption and lack of representation because in Pakistan, the governor of a region is appointed, not elected. The Pashtun of pakistan are therefore very angry and rightfully so.

    It's easy and also stupid, to blame the USA for everything wrong in the world, especially for this. A pakistani official said the USA encouraged them to be aggressive towards their taliban. So what? Who told them to be stupid about it? The pakistani govt isn't fighting a war, it's fighting a civil war and when fighting a civil war, you need to be clear what your objective is. And in the case of the Pakistani govt is to exterminate the will and identity of the pashtun people. And they've been doing it for decades, it's not something new.

    So yes, this is a long reply but it's to point out the stupidity of the media. "Journalists" who know little or nothing about what they're writing about so they just wanna pin the blame on something "progressive" losers can masturbate to while self-flagellating themselves.



    Even easier to pass the blame.

    Tell me, how has American involvement helped the war on terror?

    Please list all the massacres of school children by the Taliban BEFORE the US started drone bombing?

    I would suggests that "journalists" know a **** of a lot more than you, they at least cite sources, you have laid out a page of uniformed and unsubstantiated opinion against journalists in country, on scene who have been reporting backlash for over a year.
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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Aynrandville?
    He didn't call you a town name. He just made up a town name to be illustrative.

    Hippie****bag ring a bell?
    He didn't quote you and was referring to a position. You're a religious person, right? I'd say clearly not a hippie.

    Didnt you even read what he wrote?
    You're playing the victim card.

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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He didn't call you a town name. He just made up a town name to be illustrative.



    He didn't quote you and was referring to a position. You're a religious person, right? I'd say clearly not a hippie.



    You're playing the victim card.
    I dont play any cards. I debate the issues. If you like to be like him then thats you.

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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Please list all the massacres of school children by the Taliban BEFORE the US started drone bombing?
    "logic"

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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I dont play any cards. I debate the issues. If you like to be like him then thats you.
    Claiming that others are calling you names, especially when they are not, is hardly debating. It's whining and playing the victim card. It's a position, perhaps, but a pathetic one.

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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    This is the most masochistic OP I've seen in a while. There's always someone willing to come out of the woodworks with a knife to their wrists after a tragedy like this screaming "We did this to ourselves!"

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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Even easier to pass the blame.

    Tell me, how has American involvement helped the war on terror?

    Please list all the massacres of school children by the Taliban BEFORE the US started drone bombing?

    I would suggests that "journalists" know a **** of a lot more than you, they at least cite sources, you have laid out a page of uniformed and unsubstantiated opinion against journalists in country, on scene who have been reporting backlash for over a year.
    Please list all the massacres of school children by the Taliban BEFORE the release of the iPod. Before you tell me correlation doesn't equal causation I want you to think on it.

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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    So silly namecalling is all you can come up with?
    Not at all. I pointed out the error in suggesting that we're supporting ethnic cleansing, when we're clearly not, and the error in suggesting that by taking a side against the Taliban makes us no better than the Taliban. Does intervening in a domestic dispute make us equally reprehensible as the abuser if he chooses to escalate his behavior in response? Of course not, yet this is is the obvious farce you're attempting to advance here.

    Unless youre prepared to kill every man woman and child in these regions then you can expect more reprisals.
    There are scores of non-Taliban sympathizers in Pakistan, as evidenced by the demonstrations in recent days. We should actively assist the Pakistani government in making sure that those who may sympathize take pause before taking up arms again, especially against children.

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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Wars cost money and the fact that the Obama administration is actively encouraging the Pakistan government to do this and is supporting them means the blame definitely lies with our government- this is why terrorism is on the rise all over the world.
    So what should we do? Allow terroists to roam freely and plot to kill us with impunity?
    Let me guess...you're one of those idiots who thinks if we leave them alone, they won't kill us?

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    Re: Terrorist massacre of children ‘blowback’ from U.S.-backed Pakistani offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Choosing a side in a civil war in which we have no business to be a part of does not make us any better, in fact, it encourages reprisal attacks against us.
    It's not a civil war, you moron. The Pakistani Taliban are Afghan Taliban who survived our post-9/11 wrath and fled to Pakistan.

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