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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother AJ View Post
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    Good gawd, how selfish can you get huh? What a ****ed up world we live in where something like this is legal.
    Dang, if I were in the same situation, and able to communicate, I'd ask my closest next of kin or friend if they would take care of my friend after I'm gone, the wish of this one does seem awfully selfish.

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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So the fact that dozens of children in Pakistan got massacred...the fact that millions of children die every year from preventable illnesses/conditions...the endless wars that seem to accomplish nothing and bring untold misery to innocent people...none of this seems to register with you enough to start a thread.

    But harm one dog and you are outraged (and no doubt you are not alone).

    That's what's wrong with the world. Millions are suffering and no one give's a sh!t. Kill one dog - everyone freaks out.


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    BTW - I hope they don't kill the dog...and my guess is they won't.
    Some people are crazy about their pets, spending a bunch of money on organic food bc dog food just isn't good enough. Letting them sleep in their bed, beg for food, let them lick their mouth, laugh when they bark and growl at them etc. I own pets but they are pets... Just pets!

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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    So give the dog lovers an opportunity to raise money to send the dog to Utah or drive it there themselves. How much can it cost to pile a dog into a car and drive it from Indiana, especially with the price of gas dropping on a daily basis?
    Exactly - to expand on what you quoted -
    The second option is to send Bela to Best Friends Animal Society in Utah. It's the largest no-kill animal sanctuary in the country, but Lay's attorney says her estate doesn't have the cash to make that happen.

    Bela is currently being held at an animal shelter while the estate decides what to do. Volunteers are trying to stop the euthanization, even offering to pay to find the dog a new home. But Lay's attorney says that's against his client's wishes.
    So if volunteers will pay for a new home, why don't they pay to send Bela to Utah? I'm not sure if the shelter has room for Bela, but hopefully they do. And then the shelter can find a home for the dog.

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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    I think maybe we're misreading her motives. In her will, she provides two options. In one, the dog is euthanized, just as millions of dogs are every year by humane societies around the country. In the second option, the dog is to be sent to a sanctuary that specifically does not euthanize dogs. That seemed curious. So I can only speculate that she did this because she loved the animal so much that she wanted to ensure that if the dog survived her it would be treated humanely. She probably felt she would have no such assurance otherwise.
    Sounds reasonable to me. She doesn't want the dog just put out on the street. If the dog is given to an animal shelter, they'll end up euthanizing it anyway as older dogs are rarely adopted. Obviously the woman cared greatly for this dog.

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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Well, they're not exactly sure whether it's legal yet. That's what the court has to decide.

    Personally, I think they're all being stupid, when there's a very simple solution to the problem. All the dead lady wants is for the dog's ashes to be mixed with hers. So just let one of the numerous people who volunteered to adopt the dog do it, under the condition that when it dies naturally, it will be cremated and the ashes mixed with the original owners. Problem solved.
    Since thousands of animals get put down daily without any justification needed, I'd guess that there is nothing illegal about it.

    But your solution is an obvious and a good one. Surely a person on a trip to eternity could wait a couple of years for her dog to join her.

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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So the fact that dozens of children in Pakistan got massacred...the fact that millions of children die every year from preventable illnesses/conditions...the endless wars that seem to accomplish nothing and bring untold misery to innocent people...none of this seems to register with you enough to start a thread.

    But harm one dog and you are outraged (and no doubt you are not alone).

    That's what's wrong with the world. Millions are suffering and no one give's a sh!t. Kill one dog - everyone freaks out.


    That's the thing you gotta remember about WASPs. They love animals, but they can't stand people.

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    BTW - I hope they don't kill the dog...and my guess is they won't.
    Soooo, using a false quote from a fictional character is somehow supposed to be convincing? Lame.


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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So the fact that dozens of children in Pakistan got massacred...the fact that millions of children die every year from preventable illnesses/conditions...the endless wars that seem to accomplish nothing and bring untold misery to innocent people...none of this seems to register with you enough to start a thread.

    But harm one dog and you are outraged (and no doubt you are not alone).

    That's what's wrong with the world. Millions are suffering and no one give's a sh!t. Kill one dog - everyone freaks out.


    That's the thing you gotta remember about WASPs. They love animals, but they can't stand people.

    Gordon Gekko


    BTW - I hope they don't kill the dog...and my guess is they won't.
    WTF?! Have you heard of the relative privation fallacy? Because you're committing it.

    Fallacy of relative privation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The fallacy of relative privation, or appeal to bigger problems, is an informal fallacy in which it is suggested an opponent's arguments should be dismissed or ignored, on the grounds of there existing more important problems, despite these issues being often completely unrelated to the subject at hand.[1]

    A well-known example of this fallacy is the response "but there are children starving in Africa," with the implication that any issue less serious is not worthy of discussion; or the saying "I used to lament having no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet."
    All of what you brought up is important and worth discussing, but that doesn't mean this dog's predicament is suddenly meaningless. Stop derailing the thread please.

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    Imagine how ****ed up the world would be if a person could kill a child they didnt want... oh wait
    Same goes for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Well, they're not exactly sure whether it's legal yet. That's what the court has to decide.

    Personally, I think they're all being stupid, when there's a very simple solution to the problem. All the dead lady wants is for the dog's ashes to be mixed with hers. So just let one of the numerous people who volunteered to adopt the dog do it, under the condition that when it dies naturally, it will be cremated and the ashes mixed with the original owners. Problem solved.
    Yes, but the fact that it's even a QUESTION is certainly a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Some people are crazy about their pets, spending a bunch of money on organic food bc dog food just isn't good enough. Letting them sleep in their bed, beg for food, let them lick their mouth, laugh when they bark and growl at them etc. I own pets but they are pets... Just pets!
    This is not "crazy", it's showing these animals love. Love which these beings deserve. I feel sorry for your "pets".

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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother AJ View Post
    Yes, but the fact that it's even a QUESTION is certainly a problem.
    The dog was her property, and she specified what she wanted done with that property in her will. Why shouldn't it be a question? I don't agree that the dog should be euthanized, especially if people are willing to look after it, but that's the way the laws are written.
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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    The dog was her property, and she specified what she wanted done with that property in her will. Why shouldn't it be a question? I don't agree that the dog should be euthanized, especially if people are willing to look after it, but that's the way the laws are written.
    Well apparently you think it shouldn't be questioned if you don't agree? I understand that this is the way the laws are written, but the legality of something is not justification enough. I feel that other animals being property is incredibly unjust in general.

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    Re: Deceased Woman Wants Dog Killed, Buried With Her

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Some people are crazy about their pets, spending a bunch of money on organic food bc dog food just isn't good enough. Letting them sleep in their bed, beg for food, let them lick their mouth, laugh when they bark and growl at them etc. I own pets but they are pets... Just pets!
    Some people are obviously not as close to their "pets" or "dogs" as some, like me.

    His food bowl always has a supply of Kibbles n Bits - it's the only dry food he likes enough to eat (okay- now he's spoiled- right?)

    His water bowl is always full of fresh clean water - more than most dogs get being chained to a tree or a crappy dog house outside.

    He is my shadow, ever present, next to me nearly 24/7/365. No French kisses unless by accident. In the evening when I lie down to sleep, he comes along beside me, I give him the belly rub, ear massage, he roots the blankets on the bed and snorts and wrestles a bit, comes close to by ear and licks my ear ever so gently - kisses, then he lies next to my legs nearly all night long, in bed.

    yes, he's more, much more than a pet, he is my companion by day and night, and he watches and listens constantly, always on alert to let me know when cars, people, or anything else is not normal as it should be, yes, we are close, very close.

    when I talk to him, I think he understands what I'm saying, but, only one or two words at a time, so he understands the meaning of the message I'm giving him.

    no, he never needs to beg or do tricks for a treat, he doesn't need to roll over, or to speak, he get's his treats after the people eat their dinner, he thinks he's getting what we had to eat, but don't tell him that, he doesn't know any different.

    a friend for life.

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