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    Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Sometimes I think, maybe they'll (the West) let the bear eat berries and honey in the forest, maybe they will leave it in peace," Putin said at a news conference in Moscow on Thursday, using a metaphor to refer to Russia's famed symbol.
    "They will not. Because they will always try to put him on a chain, and as soon as they succeed in doing so they tear out his fangs and his claws."

    Putin also accused the West of trying to infringe on Russia's sovereignty, adding the Ukrainian crisis was just a pretext for Western action.
    Putin said sanctions were responsible for up to 30% of Russia's economic crisis and added the ruble would stabilize.

    "The current situation has been provoked by external factors, but it's worth noting that we haven't done what we planned to do to diversify our economy," he said
    Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'


    some colorful language -read other sources for more in depth.
    He also mention US torture post 9-11, and lashes out at a question about political reform.

    Be interesting to see if Russia can diversify from an extractive economy; or as McCain called it
    "a glorified gas station"
    EDIT: his annual news conference

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    I would prefer to put it in a grave but a chain will suffice.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Last week the Russian economic meltdown was a myth created by the West, this week it's the West's fault. In other Russian news, Putin won Man of The Year for the 15th year in a row (I'm not making that up).

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    When will Russians like Putin learn that if you produce nothing whatsoever that can't be attained elsewhere, you have no leverage or reliable economy?

    Of course, this guy is crazy enough to start a global war out of spite.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Last week the Russian economic meltdown was a myth created by the West, this week it's the West's fault. In other Russian news, Putin won Man of The Year for the 15th year in a row (I'm not making that up).
    Russian nationalism at work. He's still got high poll numbers there - a lot of support - not just from the old people who watch state TV.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'


    some colorful language -read other sources for more in depth.
    He also mention US torture post 9-11, and lashes out at a question about political reform.

    Be interesting to see if Russia can diversify from an extractive economy; or as McCain called it
    "a glorified gas station"
    EDIT: his annual news conference
    Indeed. Of course the West wants the Russian bear on a chain. It's got a bad history of misdeeds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    I would prefer to put it in a grave but a chain will suffice.
    Hmm. A chain may be all we can get at this time, but that should be enough to let the old cold warriors age out. Once that's done, you figure the Russian cold war bear would be in the grave?
    the Fix-is-in Bureau of Investigation

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Russian nationalism at work. He's still got high poll numbers there - a lot of support - not just from the old people who watch state TV.
    Stalin hasn't been doing poorly of late either.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'


    some colorful language -read other sources for more in depth.
    He also mention US torture post 9-11, and lashes out at a question about political reform.

    Be interesting to see if Russia can diversify from an extractive economy; or as McCain called it
    "a glorified gas station"
    EDIT: his annual news conference
    He's just stirring up the locals so he can remain politically popular

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    He's still got high poll numbers there - a lot of support - not just from the old people who watch state TV.
    Good point.

    Though through various means including uhmm... "out raged patriots" beating up independent journalists and "Putin does not like your news, now all government liked cable providers (pretty much the only cable providers in Russia) suddenly refuse to carry it", state TV is becoming the only TV in Russia.

    That aside, Russian nationalism, as you mentioned, is a huge draw. The Economist , however, suggested that Russian are long conditioned to say one thing (tow the Soviet or the right wing nationalist line), while keeping true feelings private-until they boil over.

    Needless to say, such a boil over could make Putin very desperate. My guess is that the first places for a boil over wont be Moscow, but Tatarastan and Saint Petersbug. Saint Petersburg has always been more exposed to the west and might be less likely to blindly follow the: "Russian patriots support Putin, because then they would not be Russian patriots- and we are Russian patriots" type of "logic".

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'


    some colorful language -read other sources for more in depth.
    He also mention US torture post 9-11, and lashes out at a question about political reform.

    Be interesting to see if Russia can diversify from an extractive economy; or as McCain called it
    "a glorified gas station"
    EDIT: his annual news conference
    What Putin says is true. We are conducting an "Economic War" against Russia.
    The sanctions are economic war and it is very likely that John Kerry's August
    trip to Saudi Arabia was to request for an OIL price drop to corral the Russian "Gas
    Station,(McCain), by squeezing the product that generates about 60% or more
    of the Russian economy. Keep in mind that Russia suffered 20 million casualties
    in WWII helping the allies snuff Hitler. We've been treating them like an enemy
    ever since. The backstory is that CORPORATISM is deathly afraid of Communism
    because it is labor oriented instead of Elitist Capital oriented. Russia's actions
    to co-ordinate the BRICS Nations and develop alternative banking, currency, and
    financing arrangements are what is behind the USA intrigue to bankrupt Russia.
    The USA is colluding with the World's largest banks and uses the power of the
    Reserve Currency against Russia. Russia must operate with its' own surplus
    capital whereas the USA continuously writes checks (new money/debt) to add
    to Trillions of dollars of debt that the money structure of the World must tolerate.
    Russia is organizing a threat to that Unlimited Debt hegemony. If China and India
    decide to help Russia with their large surpluses, Russia will recover more rapidly,
    Irregardless, Russia will recover and develop a more independent economy and, most
    definitely, an alternative banking environment. Russia is the new boogeyman of the
    "Mighty Wurlitzer" CIA generated narrative and big boost to the Military Industrial
    Corporate Complex that needs a focused potential enemy/threat to keep the DOLLARS
    flowing. Over 60% of the US economy goes to Military Offense. Does that make people
    proud? I don't think so.

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