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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'


    some colorful language -read other sources for more in depth.
    He also mention US torture post 9-11, and lashes out at a question about political reform.

    Be interesting to see if Russia can diversify from an extractive economy; or as McCain called it
    "a glorified gas station"
    EDIT: his annual news conference
    Bah! Putin is just shoring up his support in Russia with a dose of nationalism.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    then don't recognize Crimea's annexation. that's fine. and if you're the US, while you're not recognizing it, fix your own neglected house.
    That's exactly what the US and other countries are doing... isolating Crimea legally and peacefully. There are no US military forces involved whatsoever.


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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    That's exactly what the US and other countries are doing... isolating Crimea legally and peacefully.
    To that end...

    The White House
    Office of the Press Secretary
    December 18, 2014

    Statement by the President on the Ukraine Freedom Support Act

    Today, I have signed H.R. 5859, the Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, into law. Signing this legislation does not signal a change in the Administration’s sanctions policy, which we have carefully calibrated in accordance with developments on the ground and coordinated with our allies and partners. At this time, the Administration does not intend to impose sanctions under this law, but the Act gives the Administration additional authorities that could be utilized, if circumstances warranted.

    My Administration will continue to work closely with allies and partners in Europe and internationally to respond to developments in Ukraine and will continue to review and calibrate our sanctions to respond to Russia's actions. We again call on Russia to end its occupation and attempted annexation of Crimea, cease support to separatists in eastern Ukraine, and implement the obligations it signed up to under the Minsk agreements.

    As I have said many times, our goal is to promote a diplomatic solution that provides a lasting resolution to the conflict and helps to promote growth and stability in Ukraine and regionally, including in Russia. In this context, we continue to call on Russia's leadership to implement the Minsk agreements and to reach a lasting and comprehensive resolution to the conflict which respects Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. We remain prepared to roll back sanctions should Russia take the necessary steps.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Have you read/seen the actual polling data these articles are referring to?

    Fallen.
    I've seen countless polls from countless sources. When this phenomenon broke, years ago, pretty much every polling company got involved.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    My sister in law is a high school history teacher in St. Petersburg. They don't exactly sing the man's praises as part of the curriculum.

    If there is a "rise in popularity" it is among those dissatisfied with the current situation.(current meaning since the collapse of the Soviet Union) Russia has a lot of problems and communism has always been an easy sell to those who have nothing.
    Well, duh. No one is claiming the educated and well-heeled are into Stalin.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    That's exactly what the US and other countries are doing... isolating Crimea legally and peacefully. There are no US military forces involved whatsoever.
    no, we're also sanctioning Russia at a time when plummeting oil prices are also hurting their economy. it's a stupid pissing match that we shouldn't be participating in. it's like if we made Puerto Rico a state and Russia didn't like it, so they organized all of their buddies to hurt our economy. it's just ****ing stupid cold war horse****.

    we have a nation of our own to fix, and we don't need to be in pissing contests with half of the world.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'


    some colorful language -read other sources for more in depth.
    He also mention US torture post 9-11, and lashes out at a question about political reform.

    Be interesting to see if Russia can diversify from an extractive economy; or as McCain called it
    "a glorified gas station"
    EDIT: his annual news conference
    When the bear goes on a killing rampage a chain is a good idea.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Keep in mind that Russia suffered 20 million casualties
    in WWII helping the allies snuff Hitler..
    There you go with your revisionist history again. Russia had no choice but to fight Hitler as he invaded their country. You make psychopath Stalin sound like he had redeeming qualities.

    Poor, poor Russia and the former USSR such a victim. Oh brother.

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I've seen countless polls from countless sources. When this phenomenon broke, years ago, pretty much every polling company got involved.
    I asked you a simple question regarding specific source material (polls) which were mentioned in specific articles that you've posted... answer the question or get lost Eco.

    I"ll repeat it again: Have you read/seen the actual polling data these articles are referring to?

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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Have you read/seen the actual polling data these articles are referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    I asked you a simple question regarding specific source material (polls) which were mentioned in specific articles that you've posted... answer the question or get lost Eco.

    I"ll repeat it again: Have you read/seen the actual polling data these articles are referring to?

    Fallen.
    I don't give a **** about those specific articles. As I noted: "Let me google that for you". Those were the first two articles on google, there are hundreds, some more legit than others. The phenom cannot be denied.

    Want more googling done for you?

    Dictator Stalin voted third most popular Russian | Reuters

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/05/op...adow.html?_r=0

    Josef Stalin: revered and reviled in modern Russia - Telegraph
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    Re: Putin: West wants to put Russian bear 'on a chain'

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no, we're also sanctioning Russia at a time when plummeting oil prices are also hurting their economy. it's a stupid pissing match that we shouldn't be participating in. it's like if we made Puerto Rico a state and Russia didn't like it, so they organized all of their buddies to hurt our economy. it's just ****ing stupid cold war horse****.

    we have a nation of our own to fix, and we don't need to be in pissing contests with half of the world.
    The USA is using its' World Reserve Currency Status to pursue
    economic warfare against Nations who do not desire to participate
    in Western Banking Hegemony. This is seen by all Nations and
    will cause long term reverberations to the Western Banking cartels.
    Nations, like Russia, who's economies produce surplus capital due
    to extractive industries would, in any other time in history, be the
    envy of the World. This surplus capital that the Russians hold will
    mitigate the Western Banker's attacks, but the Russian people will
    suffer for the several years it takes to coordinate alternate banking,
    financing, currency arrangements and build a coalition of supportive
    Nations. This could have been avoided with a sane USA policy, instead
    of the continued NWO (CorpGov) model favored by Western Capital
    Elitists. The Elitists will profit handsomely from the new Cold War
    just like they profit from Hot Wars, but they fear genuine peace, because
    they need collective fear to keep the profits flowing. Expect a continuing
    barrage of MSM demons to generate that required fear. By the way, who
    owns the MSM and do they get what they pay for?

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