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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "Confiscatory" taxes? Wouldn't this describe all taxes? Are you against all taxes?
    Anything above the State Level...Yes
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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    That is a very inaccurate statement of the economic hardships that other countries are facing. Very little of it comes from healthcare for the general population. Most of it comes from the additional costs of an aging population and rebuilding their economics after international private interests screwed everything up during the previous decade. Most nations with universal healthcare systems pay for them easily and have significantly better results and higher approval among their citizens than our system does.



    As it turns out, liberty has nothing to do with money in your pocket. It has to do with the options you have to determine the direction of your life. I can see why you resent taxation. Most of your taxes (and mine) go to making rich people richer. But that's a flaw in the priorities of our government (which would be solved by a stronger, not weaker, public sphere), not in the principle of public interest. Those nations get a lot more value for their tax money than we do. That's because they believe in robust public spending, rather than insane defense spending (which is a corporate windfall), a public healthcare system based around increasing the power of private healthcare (which is a corporate windfall), and huge corporate subsidies (which are a corporate windfall). If our tax money was being spent on the public like theirs is, you'd probably feel a lot better about spending it.

    Wow, if " international private interest " can nearly bankrupt all these Socialist powerhouses how strong and well run can they possibly be ?

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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Perhaps he's thinking this move will help him in the run-off next month. Or maybe...just maybe...he's one Democrat who actually puts the financial health of his State before a destructive liberal agenda item.

    Too bad he didn't have the lobby muscle he needed to suck more money out of the rest of us taxpayers...or should that be considered a good thing?
    Yes, confiscatory taxation and medical rationing are always a good thing. Aren't they?

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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    A sad day. The United States will continue to lag behind the rest of the industrialized world when it comes to health.
    Right, except that we don't. Yet. But you guys are working on that. Oh, and please spare me the WHO bull****. They rate countries on what their policy intends, not what it actually produces.

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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Ah...did the esteemed governor finally come to the disappointing realization that the great state of Vermont doesn't have its own currency printing press or central banking cartel?
    Incrementally, and always under the guise of "fairness", "equality", and "social justice", the US Constitution has been deceitfully interpreted in ways that remove all limitations on central authority...and place them on the people.

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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    That is a very inaccurate statement of the economic hardships that other countries are facing. Very little of it comes from healthcare for the general population. Most of it comes from the additional costs of an aging population and rebuilding their economics after international private interests screwed everything up during the previous decade. Most nations with universal healthcare systems pay for them easily and have significantly better results and higher approval among their citizens than our system does.
    No it isn't.

    France's Health-Care System Is Going Broke - Businessweek
    Waiting times at five-year high in British National Health Service - World Socialist Web Site
    Germany cuts health care spending, raises premiums - Washington Times

    They are cutting services and raising taxes to pay for their healthcare system. no they don't pay for the easily or else they wouldn't be cutting services and raising taxes, and pushing private healthcare.

    So not only people in Europe have to pay high taxes for their so called "free" healthcare (what a joke that is) they also have to pay for private insurance to cover what the government won't pay for.

    As it turns out, liberty has nothing to do with money in your pocket.
    you would be wrong.

    It has to do with the options you have to determine the direction of your life.
    hard to do that when 40% of my check goes to the government in taxes.

    I can see why you resent taxation. Most of your taxes (and mine) go to making rich people richer.
    Except it doesn't. the majority of my tax money goes to people on SS, welfare and other social services. it is ok that you don't understand how the system works.

    But that's a flaw in the priorities of our government (which would be solved by a stronger, not weaker, public sphere), not in the principle of public interest. Those nations get a lot more value for their tax money than we do. That's because they believe in robust public spending, rather than insane defense spending (which is a corporate windfall), a public healthcare system based around increasing the power of private healthcare (which is a corporate windfall), and huge corporate subsidies (which are a corporate windfall). If our tax money was being spent on the public like theirs is, you'd probably feel a lot better about spending it.
    every nation on earth offers tax deductions for all sorts of businesses.
    in fact most of Europe has a corporate tax rate of 25%. the US 35% or so.

    no not really. I prefer the money be in my pocket so I can spend it on my family that is why I work. to provide for my family not give it to you.

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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    This country has terrible priorities.
    If you notice something good in yourself, give credit to God, not to yourself, but be certain the evil you commit is always your own and yours to acknowledge.

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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    This country has terrible priorities.
    I think our priorities should be the Constitution and Bill of Rights, how about you?
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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Vermont bails on single-payer health care - Sarah Wheaton - POLITICO



    Terrible news. Just another example of how politicians will backstab the electorate right after the election.
    Socialism does not work. Maybe he's pulled his head out.

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    Re: Vermont Bails on Single-Payer Healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, confiscatory taxation and medical rationing are always a good thing. Aren't they?
    Are you actually asking me?

    Or are you just using my post as a jumping off point to make some obscure or, maybe, sarcastic statement?
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