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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He seems to be more focused on the outspoken celebrities who outwardly support America's adversaries (Jane Fonda, Michael Moore, Oliver Stone, etc.) and the films that focus on American imperialist defeat like Platoon, Che, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, and so on. I think US Conservative also overlooked the rather pro-Soviet and pro-Communist sentiment in Hollywood unions through the 1950s, where (for instance) Reagan gained his fame.
    The thing is that those celebrities for the most part wouldn't make up even a sizeable percentage of Hollywood's production output. More importantly, they don't represent the majority of Hollywood. I agree Hollywood was probably had far more communist sympathizers in the 1950s than it did in the 1970 and 80s when big budget productions started becoming realities. Hell, I'd even argue that the original Star Wars trilogy was so popular because of how it could be applied to the situation between the USSR & US. Sure, there are a lot of visuals that lend themselves to the Empire being similar to Nazi Germany. However, much of the vocabulary used throughout the movie and the actual politics of the Empire pay homage to those of the USSR's.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He seems to be more focused on the outspoken celebrities who outwardly support America's adversaries (Jane Fonda, Michael Moore, Oliver Stone, etc.) and the films that focus on American imperialist defeat like Platoon, Che, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, and so on. I think US Conservative also overlooked the rather pro-Soviet and pro-Communist sentiment in Hollywood unions through the 1950s, where (for instance) Reagan gained his fame.
    Its true there were commies in hollywood in the 50's, as there are today. What was also true is there was a general anti-communist tone in both hollywood and in mainstream America. Many of those same marxists were part of the frankfurt school, and they spread in the 60's. There were still anti-communists even then. Hollywood only continued to move towards the same commie fail, even if a few movies make it superficially appear otherwise.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

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    So you think that a few movies somehow change the overwhelming lean and ideology of hollywood. Thats fascinating.
    I don't think you're going to get much push back on the idea that much (quarrels will exist about it being a majority or not) of Hollywood is left of center, with a disproportionate number who lean socialist and (depending on how old they are) had warm feelings for the revolution. However, I think they are also saying that at given points in Hollywood's history, there was a tendency to release a ton of films for the general population to satisfy those anti-Left wing urges. The less populist the tone, the more likely they were to tap into the idea of the Soviet vanguard, anti-colonialism, anti-US imperialism, and so forth. But those popcorn films tend to satisfy the ideas of anti-Left sentiment.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

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    Sony gave them the choice and that was the right move since the theatre owners would have gone their own way anyway even if Sony stood firm.
    Potentially so. I think, however, Sony has largely set the tone for how this was going to go. It's been a Sony-centric story.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I don't think you're going to get much push back on the idea that much (quarrels will exist about it being a majority or not) of Hollywood is left of center, with a disproportionate number who lean socialist and (depending on how old they are) had warm feelings for the revolution. However, I think they are also saying that at given points in Hollywood's history, there was a tendency to release a ton of films for the general population to satisfy those anti-Left wing urges. The less populist the tone, the more likely they were to tap into the idea of the Soviet vanguard, anti-colonialism, anti-US imperialism, and so forth. But those popcorn films tend to satisfy the ideas of anti-Left sentiment.
    Fair enough but to cite Rambo (an action movie that needed a villain-it would be the taliban today) as some evidence of the absence of the clear left lean is hollywood is insane, even Rambo was a classic leftist military "victim".

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It does look like a ****ty movie. I didn't want to watch the thing regardless.
    Now, I would buy a ticket and go just to spite them, on Christmas day. I don't care how crappy a movie it might look to be or is.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    It was one of the few movies coming up I was looking forward to seeing, just a pointless shallow comedy. They can be an enjoyable diversion.

    This could end up being a huge PR plus if ever released. Or it may never be released. It is a fairly bold movie advocating humor about assassinating a foreign leader.
    Maybe that's not such a good idea.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    A theater in Texas will be running "Team America" instead.

    Alamo Drafthouse In Dallas/Fort Worth To Show 'Team America' Instead Of 'The Interview'
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Potentially so. I think, however, Sony has largely set the tone for how this was going to go. It's been a Sony-centric story.
    Here's why Sony has egg on its face throughout this whole ordeal:

    In addition to Sony asking for the Kim Jong-un death scene to be toned down (as revealed in leaked emails), we also learn that it requested for him not be killed at all. "There was a moment where [the studio execs] were like: 'They’ve threatened war over the movie. You kill him [Kim Jong-un]. Would you consider not killing him?' And we were like, 'Nope.'"
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    Now, I would buy a ticket and go just to spite them, on Christmas day. I don't care how crappy a movie it might look to be or is.

    Cowards.
    I won't but Sony has no plans at all to release the film on any format. Right now---it's dead.

    Sony Pictures Entertainment has chosen to stand down for “The Interview,” deciding against releasing the Seth Rogen-James Franco comedy in any form — including VOD or DVD, as U.S. officials reportedly link Sony’s massive cyber attack to North Korea.

    “Sony Pictures has no further release plans for the film,” a spokesman said Wednesday.

    The studio issued the statement a few hours after pulling the planned Christmas Day release of “The Interview” in the U.S. in response to the hackers who threatened a 9/11-style attack against U.S. theaters and moviegoers if the comedy were released.
    http://variety.com/2014/film/news/so...ew-1201382167/

    Sony has wussed out on this film the whole time. It doesn't even exist on Sony's website.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It sounds weak and it makes me angry that it comes to this, but in this day an age it would be irresponsible on the part of Sony and the theaters that would air the movie to potentially put crowds of movie goers in danger. Can you imagine the outcry and calls for Sony's crucifixion if they aired the movie and some ass blew up a theater or in some other way harmed people.

    When someone sends in a bomb threat at an airport or government building, people don't just ignore that threat - they close down the location until everything is clear. I'm not sure how you clear anything from what equates to a terrorist threat.
    You're not-American and the above display of cowardice is to be expected.

    Meanwhile in America, Sony's decision is a disgrace and an embarrassment. No doubt the terrorists got some dirt on the executives and so they caved.
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