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Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

If Sony had released the movie and if the distributors and theaters accepted it and and if an attack happened, Sony would take much of the blame, face massive lawsuits and suffer an even worse PR problem than they have now. Chances are many of the same people currently criticizing Sony for pulling the film would be even more critical towards them if there was a violent attack. They are in a no-win situation.

:rolleyes: the release of the (stupid) film would've made no difference at all. The hack had nothing whatsoever to do w/the film. It's just a big smokescreen.
 
The only way to have decent security is for the NSA to control everyone's network, and fortunately, that will never happen.
The NSA does that already. Just ask Snowden.
 
This is merely a drop in the water of artificial intelligence. Computers are dictating not only government but the will of the people. the greatest demon in the future of mankind is technology. As long as technology expands and madmen continue to rule we will have the formula for the end of the world. The single most powerful light of freedom is now kneeling to technology in the name of safety and that is tragic. We are doomed.
 
This is being taken way too seriously
Agree, but...

Releasing it commercially "on principle" can lead to unintended consequences, which Sony appears to be afraid of. OTOH, maybe I lack imagination, but I can't see what form retaliation would take or how it could be delivered. If they are afraid of being criticized for making money (even recouping their costs), they should just release it online for free as someone else already suggested. Since I lack imagination and don't have any skin in the game I can think about their options in these simple and clear terms. I'm reminded of an old axiom about science and experimentation, that in theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. Who here would want to volunteer to suffer from any theoretical consequences that turned real?
 
Who here would want to volunteer to suffer from any theoretical consequences that turned real?

One can't assume all risks are equal. The law enforcement and intelligence communities both said that there is no credible or specific threat. The probability of a bad outcome is extremely low. Treating the extremely low probability outcome as a likely one does not make any more sense than, let's say, my choosing to stay indoors today on account of cloudy weather out of the extremely low probability of a lightning strike even as no convection has been detected on the radar. Rational behavior needs to consider realistic appraisals of risk. The hackers' threat did not constitute something that should have impacted people's attending the movies, much less justified Sony's widely-visible capitulation.
 
One can't assume all risks are equal. The law enforcement and intelligence communities both said that there is no credible or specific threat. The probability of a bad outcome is extremely low. Treating the extremely low probability outcome as a likely one does not make any more sense than, let's say, my choosing to stay indoors today on account of cloudy weather out of the extremely low probability of a lightning strike even as no convection has been detected on the radar. Rational behavior needs to consider realistic appraisals of risk. The hackers' threat did not constitute something that should have impacted people's attending the movies, much less justified Sony's widely-visible capitulation.
I agree that the risk is probably low, but it's more accurate to say that it is unknowable. One thing we do know about virtually all terrorist attacks is that they are unexpected, low-probability and extremely vicious. Who would have expected anyone to blow up the Murrah Federal Building or set off bombs at the finish line of a marathon?
 
Bull!!! Why would you give in to them? I would release it with added footage of Un being bent over by a dog.
 
Another thought....

They "claim" North Korea, I'd like to see the evidence. Not saying it's not, but I long stopped believing scare stories from our government.
 
I agree that the risk is probably low, but it's more accurate to say that it is unknowable. One thing we do know about virtually all terrorist attacks is that they are unexpected, low-probability and extremely vicious. Who would have expected anyone to blow up the Murrah Federal Building or set off bombs at the finish line of a marathon?

I don't disagree with the idea that the actual risk is unknown, as that's the nature of uncertainty. But there's enough information (law enforcement information, intelligence community information, etc.) to suggest that one would have a very low probability of being impacted. The probability would not be at a magnitude to lead a reasonable person to change one's behavior. That Sony likely panicked in the midst of the hacking decision and engaged in erratic decision making, canceling the film through all venues of distribution then beat a hasty partial retreat from a combination of public disbelief and the President's correctly disagreeing with its decision, doesn't alter that reality.
 
Another thought....

They "claim" North Korea, I'd like to see the evidence. Not saying it's not, but I long stopped believing scare stories from our government.

From the FBI's news release:

As a result of our investigation, and in close collaboration with other U.S. government departments and agencies, the FBI now has enough information to conclude that the North Korean government is responsible for these actions. While the need to protect sensitive sources and methods precludes us from sharing all of this information, our conclusion is based, in part, on the following:
◾Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
◾The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
◾Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.


FBI — Update on Sony Investigation
 
From the FBI's news release:

As a result of our investigation, and in close collaboration with other U.S. government departments and agencies, the FBI now has enough information to conclude that the North Korean government is responsible for these actions. While the need to protect sensitive sources and methods precludes us from sharing all of this information, our conclusion is based, in part, on the following:
[emoji828]Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
[emoji828]The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
[emoji828]Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.


FBI — Update on Sony Investigation

Right, a country that can barely keep the lights on is responsible for an extremely sophisticated cyber attack that brought a multimillion dollar corporation to its knees...

I smell bs (not on your part, the report)
 
From the FBI's news release:

As a result of our investigation, and in close collaboration with other U.S. government departments and agencies, the FBI now has enough information to conclude that the North Korean government is responsible for these actions. While the need to protect sensitive sources and methods precludes us from sharing all of this information, our conclusion is based, in part, on the following:
◾Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
◾The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
◾Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.


FBI — Update on Sony Investigation





Quite vague, and highly circumstantial. if such malware is in the wild, concrete proof would have to be greater than this. I have little doubt they are behind it given their threats. but this evidence alone is rather weak.


Remember who we are dealing with here:

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Quite vague, and highly circumstantial. if such malware is in the wild, concrete proof would have to be greater than this. I have little doubt they are behind it given their threats. but this evidence alone is rather weak.


Remember who we are dealing with here:

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Exactly, and it is a relatively simple of a process to spoof location data to appear as though you are anywhere in the world, if one were so inclined.

Seriously, North Korea can barely keep the lights on, and all of a sudden they are the elite hackers of the world.

I would believe China, or a disgruntled employee with inside knowledge of their systems, would be far more likely...
 
Exactly, and it is a relatively simple of a process to spoof location data to appear as though you are anywhere in the world, if one were so inclined.

Seriously, North Korea can barely keep the lights on, and all of a sudden they are the elite hackers of the world.

I would believe China, or a disgruntled employee with inside knowledge of their systems, would be far more likely...

Do not make the assumption that everything known has been made public.
 
Do not make the assumption that everything known has been made public.

No, of course not... I'm just saying that location data can be spoofed, fabricated, so that someone appears to be anywhere they desire in the world.
 
Reuters Breaking News Headline:

Breaking News: Sony Pictures authorizes Christmas Day release of film 'The Interview': Dallas cinema

I'm happy to see that Sony is now making a u-turn from its disastrous decision to pull the film. As noted in earlier stories today, the narrative that all the theater chains had wanted the film pulled had no merit. Instead, the film chains had wanted a somewhat limited release to "test" the credibility of threats. In other words, there never was a reason for Sony to pull the film in entirety. With Sony's narrative in shambles, this move can perhaps begin the proverbial healing process. Still, it will take time to erase the consequences of capitulating to North Korea's maximum demands.
 
Reuters Breaking News Headline:

Breaking News: Sony Pictures authorizes Christmas Day release of film 'The Interview': Dallas cinema

I'm happy to see that Sony is now making a u-turn from its disastrous decision to pull the film. As noted in earlier stories today, the narrative that all the theater chains had wanted the film pulled had no merit. Instead, the film chains had wanted a somewhat limited release to "test" the credibility of threats. In other words, there never was a reason for Sony to pull the film in entirety. With Sony's narrative in shambles, this move can perhaps begin the proverbial healing process. Still, it will take time to erase the consequences of capitulating to North Korea's maximum demands.
Yes, and more people will come to see it now than ever would have had Sony not been hacked.
 
Right, a country that can barely keep the lights on is responsible for an extremely sophisticated cyber attack that brought a multimillion dollar corporation to its knees...

I smell bs (not on your part, the report)
You underestimate the military department of NK. Even if the majority of civilians are starving and in severe lack of necessities, the military will be supported at all cost. Mind you, Kim's bro even studied in Europe. NK government may be a lunatic and control freak but it is not dumb enough to overlook the significance of self defense, the big part of which is the ability to carry a cyber attack. So your doubt that NK is impotent to hack Sony is unnecessary and dangerous if you were in charge of the FBI. Dont underestimate NK.
 
You underestimate the military department of NK. Even if the majority of civilians are starving and in severe lack of necessities, the military will be supported at all cost. Mind you, Kim's bro even studied in Europe. NK government may be a lunatic and control freak but it is not dumb enough to overlook the significance of self defense, the big part of which is the ability to carry a cyber attack. So your doubt that NK is impotent to hack Sony is unnecessary and dangerous if you were in charge of the FBI. Dont underestimate NK.

Ya, I'm sure they networked a bunch of commodore 64 machines.

plus, now they are pointing out the obvious, the evidence points to a disgruntled former employee.

http://rt.com/usa/217495-sony-hack-fbi-north-korea/

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/25/391797/sony-hacking-inside-job-us-experts/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gs-reveal-insider-named-Lena-responsible.html

So, ya, North Korea should not be dismissed militarily, especially to it's neighbour's. I would believe south Koreans could pull off such an attack, but north korea doesn't have the infrastructure to sustain this kind of attack.

And again, location data can be spoofed relatively easily.
 
Ya, I'm sure they networked a bunch of commodore 64 machines.

plus, now they are pointing out the obvious, the evidence points to a disgruntled former employee.

http://rt.com/usa/217495-sony-hack-fbi-north-korea/

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/25/391797/sony-hacking-inside-job-us-experts/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gs-reveal-insider-named-Lena-responsible.html

So, ya, North Korea should not be dismissed militarily, especially to it's neighbour's. I would believe south Koreans could pull off such an attack, but north korea doesn't have the infrastructure to sustain this kind of attack.

And again, location data can be spoofed relatively easily.
If it is true, then NK and Kim got screwed big time. #Victim of 2014
 
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