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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessex View Post
    Who here would want to volunteer to suffer from any theoretical consequences that turned real?
    One can't assume all risks are equal. The law enforcement and intelligence communities both said that there is no credible or specific threat. The probability of a bad outcome is extremely low. Treating the extremely low probability outcome as a likely one does not make any more sense than, let's say, my choosing to stay indoors today on account of cloudy weather out of the extremely low probability of a lightning strike even as no convection has been detected on the radar. Rational behavior needs to consider realistic appraisals of risk. The hackers' threat did not constitute something that should have impacted people's attending the movies, much less justified Sony's widely-visible capitulation.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Sony to release 'The Interview' after all?
    Two days after saying it wouldn't release the controversial film, the movie maker now says it wants to offer customers a way to see it "on a different platform."
    Publicity stunt? Wait and see.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    One can't assume all risks are equal. The law enforcement and intelligence communities both said that there is no credible or specific threat. The probability of a bad outcome is extremely low. Treating the extremely low probability outcome as a likely one does not make any more sense than, let's say, my choosing to stay indoors today on account of cloudy weather out of the extremely low probability of a lightning strike even as no convection has been detected on the radar. Rational behavior needs to consider realistic appraisals of risk. The hackers' threat did not constitute something that should have impacted people's attending the movies, much less justified Sony's widely-visible capitulation.
    I agree that the risk is probably low, but it's more accurate to say that it is unknowable. One thing we do know about virtually all terrorist attacks is that they are unexpected, low-probability and extremely vicious. Who would have expected anyone to blow up the Murrah Federal Building or set off bombs at the finish line of a marathon?
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Bull!!! Why would you give in to them? I would release it with added footage of Un being bent over by a dog.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sony to release 'The Interview' after all?


    Publicity stunt? Wait and see.
    That is actually a good point.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Another thought....

    They "claim" North Korea, I'd like to see the evidence. Not saying it's not, but I long stopped believing scare stories from our government.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessex View Post
    I agree that the risk is probably low, but it's more accurate to say that it is unknowable. One thing we do know about virtually all terrorist attacks is that they are unexpected, low-probability and extremely vicious. Who would have expected anyone to blow up the Murrah Federal Building or set off bombs at the finish line of a marathon?
    I don't disagree with the idea that the actual risk is unknown, as that's the nature of uncertainty. But there's enough information (law enforcement information, intelligence community information, etc.) to suggest that one would have a very low probability of being impacted. The probability would not be at a magnitude to lead a reasonable person to change one's behavior. That Sony likely panicked in the midst of the hacking decision and engaged in erratic decision making, canceling the film through all venues of distribution then beat a hasty partial retreat from a combination of public disbelief and the President's correctly disagreeing with its decision, doesn't alter that reality.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Another thought....

    They "claim" North Korea, I'd like to see the evidence. Not saying it's not, but I long stopped believing scare stories from our government.
    From the FBI's news release:

    As a result of our investigation, and in close collaboration with other U.S. government departments and agencies, the FBI now has enough information to conclude that the North Korean government is responsible for these actions. While the need to protect sensitive sources and methods precludes us from sharing all of this information, our conclusion is based, in part, on the following:
    ◾Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
    ◾The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
    ◾Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.


    FBI — Update on Sony Investigation

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From the FBI's news release:

    As a result of our investigation, and in close collaboration with other U.S. government departments and agencies, the FBI now has enough information to conclude that the North Korean government is responsible for these actions. While the need to protect sensitive sources and methods precludes us from sharing all of this information, our conclusion is based, in part, on the following:
    Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
    The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
    Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.


    FBI — Update on Sony Investigation
    Right, a country that can barely keep the lights on is responsible for an extremely sophisticated cyber attack that brought a multimillion dollar corporation to its knees...

    I smell bs (not on your part, the report)

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