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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's easy to sit on our asses in our safe homes or offices and recommend everyone ignore such threats. Flying planes into the World Trade Center was once considered impossible, something that would never happen. I fully understand and accept that Sony and the theaters had no interest in calling anyone's bluff.
    The problem with that, is now someone just needs to make a threat and we'll kowtow to their demands. If someone just has to say "Remember 9/11" and we go all crazy, then it's pretty well over at that point.

    I don't know, the movie looked really dumb so I wasn't going to see it, but I hate seeing this groveling at terrorists' feet.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And I am also free to criticize them for making such decisions. Why does everyone act like those against these decisions are saying that there should be some law against them doing so? That isn't what we are saying. It is about our feelings towards these decisions being made just to appease certain groups, to give in due to fear. They are free to make such decisions, but it doesn't mean we aren't also free to view such decisions as wrong, and even take actions, such as boycotts or just expressing our feelings towards these decisions.
    You didn't see or hear me criticizing anyone else's opinion, including yours. I didn't challenge anyone else's point of view - I only expressed mine. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, you're the one who engaged me in discussion by being critical of my position.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The problem with that, is now someone just needs to make a threat and we'll kowtow to their demands. If someone just has to say "Remember 9/11" and we go all crazy, then it's pretty well over at that point.

    I don't know, the movie looked really dumb so I wasn't going to see it, but I hate seeing this groveling at terrorists' feet.
    I don't disagree with you - I'm personally angry about it myself - but I respect/accept the business choice made. If it was government caving, I'd express far more objection. But businesses caving to the ravings of the public is an everyday occurrence.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't disagree with you - I'm personally angry about it myself - but I respect/accept the business choice made. If it was government caving, I'd express far more objection. But businesses caving to the ravings of the public is an everyday occurrence.
    Fair enough. I think some of this also probably has to do with litigation. I do think that if the premiere went ahead and something did happen, that many people would sue Sony despite knowing of the threats.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Despite all the talk from internet tough guys, I suspect most Americans would blame Sony if they released the movie and an incident happened.
    I don't think this is a case of posturing by "Internet tough guys." The reality, at least as far as U.S. law enforcement and intelligence is concerned, is that the probability of an attack is extremely low. No specific or credible threats exist. It would be an entirely different matter if people were advising a course in the face of specific and credible threats that had a high probability of occurring.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You didn't see or hear me criticizing anyone else's opinion, including yours. I didn't challenge anyone else's point of view - I only expressed mine. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, you're the one who engaged me in discussion by being critical of my position.

    Generally speaking, I never criticize or challenge someone's opinions but I will criticize or challenge someone's fact basis for those opinions, if I feel they have their facts wrong. Part of the reason I joined DP is to share opinions and to be exposed to the opinions of others.
    Except you suggested that this was due to a credible threat that could lead to them having some liability for. It isn't reasonable for them to be held liable for some general terrorist threat, even if someone did pull it off, due to how incredibly unlikely that is. This has happened before, with other movies, and yet nothing happened during those movies.

    It is really not nearly as hard to threaten action as it is to take it, especially when it is the difference between threatening violence against places in the US and simply hacking and releasing computer information. People can easily hack and distribute computer information from other countries, whereas, you sort of need someone in this country to commit the type of terrorist acts threatened by Guardians of Peace.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    And now Paramount has cancelled screenings to Team America, even though screenings were requested as early as October for an unrelated event.

    Now two companies have knelt down before North Korea and made American media look pathetic.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Except you suggested that this was due to a credible threat that could lead to them having some liability for. It isn't reasonable for them to be held liable for some general terrorist threat, even if someone did pull it off, due to how incredibly unlikely that is. This has happened before, with other movies, and yet nothing happened during those movies.
    While true, we've stopped be reasonable some time ago. We'll sue for any reason, no matter how absurd now. Though the probabilities for such an event (terrorist bombing the theaters) are ridiculously low.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    While true, we've stopped be reasonable some time ago. We'll sue for any reason, no matter how absurd now. Though the probabilities for such an event (terrorist bombing the theaters) are ridiculously low.
    Just because a person files a suit, doesn't mean it will have standing against the person being sued for them being liable. Plus, those who did sue would almost certainly not get a large amount of public support for such a suit.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Just because a person files a suit, doesn't mean it will have standing against the person being sued for them being liable. Plus, those who did sue would almost certainly not get a large amount of public support for such a suit.
    That may be true, but our juries seem to award huge cash payouts for stupid lawsuits. So I don't know if I'd bet the farm on that assumption.
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