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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    My guess is that Sony's capitulation has undermined the deterrence value of any possible cyber countermeasures that might be taken against North Korea's government. Had Sony gone ahead with the film, North Korea's interests in stopping the film would not have been served. On top of that, cyber countermeasures would have inflicted a cost on that regime for its conduct.

    Now, any such measures would be measured against a trade-off, big benefits from Sony's capitulation in exchange for costs that would appear to be modest. Hence, deterrence value almost certainly wouldn't be achieved. In that context, it may now make little or no sense for the U.S. government even to undertake such measures (risk of retaliation for measures that would now have no meaningful deterrence value). Public condemnation and traditional law enforcement may now be the only reasonable approach. I can't overstate how Sony's capitulation has essentially gutted the possible effectiveness of a strategic cyber response against North Korea.
    If Sony had released the movie and if the distributors and theaters accepted it and and if an attack happened, Sony would take much of the blame, face massive lawsuits and suffer an even worse PR problem than they have now. Chances are many of the same people currently criticizing Sony for pulling the film would be even more critical towards them if there was a violent attack. They are in a no-win situation.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    They should release it for free on Piratebay.. no wait...


    actually you have the right idea

    North Korea it would seem wants to limit the distribution and dissemination of this film

    Since SONY has now written off the movie.....no choice

    If i were in the boardroom of SONY. i would give the movie to amazon, netflix, and every other distribution source available

    I would tell them to show if for free to anyone that wants to see it

    In theatres and DVD, maybe 25-35 million would have seen it

    This way, maybe 200 million will see it
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The only relevance about my not being American is my capacity for common sense. All of this big talk and bravado would wilt away with cries for mommy from you and others if you were sitting in a theater that was attacked. And if your smug self survived, you'd be suing Sony, the theater and probably George Bush too.

    But thanks - you're about as funny as the movie seems to be.
    No, you're mistaking me for a conservative. I'm not all bluster and I practice what I preach. Common sense is that it's the attackers whom would be responsible for any damages, not Sony. I'm not sure how George Bush got brought into this but it's what I expect from you.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The only relevance about my not being American is my capacity for common sense. All of this big talk and bravado would wilt away with cries for mommy from you and others if you were sitting in a theater that was attacked. And if your smug self survived, you'd be suing Sony, the theater and probably George Bush too.

    But thanks - you're about as funny as the movie seems to be.



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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This is different than Aurora 2012 however, because there's this ambiguous "broad" threat hovering around out there.

    While it's not a direct call to a specific theater, it's also not a seemingly out of no where attack that a theater had little chance of even having a tiny guess that it could've happened
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    I'm noticing a trend about these people who put their tails between their legs, hide under the bed, and give in to terrorists while making flimsy excuses to do so.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Ok, let's keep going. This is all literally me just thinking off the top of my head:

    Almost all of the Rambo movies (is that 3? not including first blood)
    Team America
    Rocky IV
    What's the movie with owen wilson where he crashes his plane in Russian territory? That one.
    Top Gun (migs were commie)
    Die Hard (the last one was in Russia but all of them contained Eastern European guys for the most part)
    (God I want to look up evil commie movies but i promised I'd do it off memory)
    From Russia with Love (and I'm sure a few other Bonds as well)
    Oh, there's all of the Jack Ryan styles books, let me see if I can rattle some off:
    I can't but there's the one with Ben Affleck where he boards the sub and there is about to be a nuclear war with Russia
    Ohhhhh, and the big one, Air Force One. A good one for Harrison Ford

    Someone else hop on and think of some movies off of the top of their head to shut US Conservative up about there not being enough commie hating movies.

    *Edit: And don't talk **** to me. You still haven't backed up your dumb "fascism is more liberal" statement that you know is stupid as hell.

    *Edit 2: I didn't include them, but pretty much any movie that includes the Vietnam War could count technically. So that gives me Forrest Gump, Platoon, etc
    Original Red Dawn (the entire concept of the movie was they were going to invade from Cuba), and even the remake is China. Stripes (sort of), Salt (according to what I've read, although I've never seen it), Little Nikita, and so many others (although many people might not recognize some of my many more obscure ones). Although I do think some people forget that China is communist.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This is different than Aurora 2012 however, because there's this ambiguous "broad" threat hovering around out there.
    There was no "broad" threat until sony allegedly claimed to have received a threat to moviegoers (i. e. an unverifiable fact). No one else said anything about such a threat.

    If sony had said nothing at all, and movie goers were massacred (which likely wouldn't have happened since the threat itself was likely concocted by sony), sony would have had zero liability as there would have no knowledge of a prior threat anywhere.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Who cares? The movie looks terrible anyway.

    Hey Sony, try making a movie that doesn't suck.

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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good morning 2M,

    That's easy to say, Israelis are protecting their country, their religion, and their way of life. They've only got one of each.

    Sony and movie theaters have lots of movies and potentially dying for one is idiotic and false bravado.

    I hope whomever is behind this can be ferreted out and specifically punished, in addition to the North Koreans who appear to be the instigators. But Sony and the theaters have acted responsibly, considering the threat. If the movie was distributed and showing and a bomb threat was called in, even for every theater, do you think or expect that authorities would simple say "be brave, keep your seat, we don't believe it". No, they'd clear the theater and investigate and make sure everyone is safe. It's the responsible thing to do.

    And let's be clear, we're talking about businesses here, not government. Businesses cave to political correctness nonsense on a regular basis for far less.
    There is a potential for dying from a terrorist threat anywhere. I have a sticker on my car that increases my chance of being killed by a terrorist. Oh well. I would be more afraid of dying in a car crash on the way to the movie theater or even choking on popcorn or a hot dog purchased for the movie than being killed by a terrorist targeting movie goers to this movie. There are simply much higher odds of those other things occurring than of the threat being fulfilled.

    This is why I believe that Sony is more afraid of the potential of the issues that could come from release of the information than from terrorists actually harming movie goers over this movie.
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    Re: Sony Cancels Theatrical Release for ‘The Interview’ on Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There is a potential for dying from a terrorist threat anywhere. I have a sticker on my car that increases my chance of being killed by a terrorist. Oh well. I would be more afraid of dying in a car crash on the way to the movie theater or even choking on popcorn or a hot dog purchased for the movie than being killed by a terrorist targeting movie goers to this movie. There are simply much higher odds of those other things occurring than of the threat being fulfilled.

    This is why I believe that Sony is more afraid of the potential of the issues that could come from release of the information than from terrorists actually harming movie goers over this movie.


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