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    [QUOTE=JoeTrumps;1064123646]All those comments blaming the U.S. embargo for the poverty and backwardness of Cuba seem to miss the point that the island has been able to trade and interact with almost all of the rest of the world, Europe and Canada included. So why hasn't this cooperation been more beneficial for Cubans? Could it be because Cuba is a prison state?[/QUOTE]

    The USA is the prison state. The highest number of citizens in jail per capita
    in the entire World. Something like 3% of the population. It is a great business
    here in the USA. So good, in fact, that large Corporate prisons are in the business
    and require 90% occupancy with their state and federal contracts. Prisons are
    good business. All you have to do is have lots of laws that put people in jail. That's
    the Good ol' USA, don't ya' know?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post

    The USA is the prison state. The highest number of citizens in jail per capita
    in the entire World. Something like 3% of the population. It is a great business
    here in the USA. So good, in fact, that large Corporate prisons are in the business
    and require 90% occupancy with their state and federal contracts. Prisons are
    good business. All you have to do is have lots of laws that put people in jail. That's
    the Good ol' USA, don't ya' know?
    Did the people in US prisons knowingly break the law?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did the people in US prisons knowingly break the law?
    Not necessarily...


    Profit motives provide incentive to wrongly imprison people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did the people in US prisons knowingly break the law?
    I don't know for sure, but lots of them are incarcerated for smokin' that noxious devil weed, marijuana,
    now legal in many states.. I see those fool reefer users thinkin' bout doing awful things and laughing and
    teeheeing and eating beaucoup snacks and dancin' and don't ya' know all kinds of such things caused by
    the effects of that ILLEGAL God given flower, but it's good for Prison business and we all about business,
    don't ya' know. Debtor's prisons seem to be back in vogue, as well. As I said, good for business, the
    prison business. On the other hand, a little, or even a lot of torture is OK. It is OK to lie to Congress if
    you're CIA, DIA, NSA,etc, but it's perjury if I do it. It OK for "too big to fail" bankers to scam billions of
    dollars and get a little fine, but no crime, no jail time, so I'm guessing these nice jails is mosty for poor
    folks and dumb folks and not politically connected folks, don't ya' know? They probably look different
    from inside that bubble that insulates you from the real world, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's all about healthcare? You can get free health care in an American prison too.

    Do you know the stats between the two dictators?
    No, it's not ALL about healthcare. There are other considerations too.

    Stats of the dictators? No, please enlighten me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did the people in US prisons knowingly break the law?
    Some did, some did not. Do you recall the case of the Central Park 5?

    Do you know how many wrongly convicted men have been released because of DNA information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Not necessarily...


    Profit motives provide incentive to wrongly imprison people.
    Ok, was this an isolated case? How many more like this are out there...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I don't know for sure, but lots of them are incarcerated for smokin' that noxious devil weed, marijuana,
    now legal in many states.. I see those fool reefer users thinkin' bout doing awful things and laughing and
    teeheeing and eating beaucoup snacks and dancin' and don't ya' know all kinds of such things caused by
    the effects of that ILLEGAL God given flower, but it's good for Prison business and we all about business,
    don't ya' know. Debtor's prisons seem to be back in vogue, as well. As I said, good for business, the
    prison business. On the other hand, a little, or even a lot of torture is OK. It is OK to lie to Congress if
    you're CIA, DIA, NSA,etc, but it's perjury if I do it. It OK for "too big to fail" bankers to scam billions of
    dollars and get a little fine, but no crime, no jail time, so I'm guessing these nice jails is mosty for poor
    folks and dumb folks and not politically connected folks, don't ya' know? They probably look different
    from inside that bubble that insulates you from the real world, eh?
    Not at all, and your mocking tone aside, I don't agree with laws put people to be in a position of being incarcerated for something like Marijuana. However, the people in prison for it are not there because they had a single joint on them, or that they had done nothing in the past that compounded to land them there. But, in the end, this is about the law. We have laws that many of us could agree shouldn't be on the books, but that doesn't give us the right to ignore them does it?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Some did, some did not. Do you recall the case of the Central Park 5?

    Do you know how many wrongly convicted men have been released because of DNA information?
    So, the fact that our system is not a perfect one, gives you the right in your head to ignore laws you don't like?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years | Reuters

    I'm actually cautiously optimistic about this. We've had a rather odd relationship with Cuba ever since their fight for independence 100+ years ago but simple proximity makes some kind of normalization a matter of practicality.
    I don't know the longstanding reason for the embargo against this one country, but there's no doubt in my mind that Obama is trying to change this for some kind of Democrat political advantage. That guy doesn't do **** for the country unless it benefits him first.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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