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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    I've never seen a President with such an amazing ability to make our enemies happy. Merry Christmas Raul Castro! Everything you wanted and you don't have to give up ANYTHING(human rights, elections et. al). Fleece him while you can. It will only last two more years! Something tells me President Christie won't be scheduling any visits to your happy island.
    Wrong AGAIN. ALL Obama has done so far is open diplomatic channels. He's given Castro NOTHING else.

    It might help the ODS sufferers to have some clue of what they're talking about.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
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    As if your mind is not made up already....

    Go there, then tell me what's going on.

    One way is that it is safer for me and my family to vacation there than in Hawaii or anywhere in the US.

    Go there, have a look and then blather about "communism"
    So, it was unsafe pre communism?
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Apologizing to Communist dictator under any circumstance is disgraceful.
    President Obama is the only American President whose foreign policy consists of declaring to all leaders of adversarial governments of how ashamed and embarrassed he is to be an American - and to apologize for our existence on our behalf.

    But he has been persuasive. A majority of Democrats polled now agree that the USA is a fundamentally evil country and are ashamed to be Americans. They're not willing to give up all they have as Americans of course. Just saying the words and feeling that way about the USA and other Americans is all they have to do.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh, maybe establishing somewhat normal relations with Cuba might help it NOT be a "murderous dictatorship"?

    Number of people killed in American embassies = 0. Benghazi was a diplomatic compound in the middle of a ****ing WAR ZONE.
    Why would they change their ways if they have less pressure to change?

    Obama didn't care either way about what Americans were dying where. He had a fund raiser to get to.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    In the meantime, capitalism has done this to the United States...

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    Brothers by a different mother?

    Wait, I found this photo from Cuba as well...

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    I don't think you can really assess a country with a couple of photos...
    Life must be better in Cuba, eh comrade?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Airline hijackings to Cuba were a routine occurrence in the late 60s and early 70s. There were so many that the government decided to install metal detection devices at all US airports.
    Probably just American leftists trying to "get home" to communism.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    In the meantime, capitalism has done this to the United States...
    Capitalism had nothing to do with that. Incompetent city management did.

    Brothers by a different mother?
    No.

    I don't think you can really assess a country with a couple of photos...
    I'm judging it from personal experience. I lived in Cuba for 13 years. How about you?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Really?

    You cherry pick a photo off the net and represent that as all of ****ing Cuba?

    That's obstinate and ignorant, continuing a myth to justify childish and bullying treatment because they repelled an illegal invasion.

    You've never been there and are too afraid to go.

    In 1955 the ****ing American mafia ran the island, people were virtual slaves to crime bosses.

    Clearly you never even bothered to wiki Cuba.
    Really bad guess. I lived in Cuba for 13 years. How about you?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, we could just sit back and wait for things to change on their own. Such an isolationist sort of policy does have some appeal, or perhaps did a century ago. In many ways, we've gone way too far the other direction lately.

    I wasn't sure just what natural resources Cuba actually had, so i looked it up here.



    Not bad for a little island.
    So, nothing we need and nothing in significant amount in the way of resources. And not at all isolationist, just not choosing for once to open trade relations with a dictatorship when we don't have to.

    Again, there is absolutely no good reason to change what has been the status quo.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And again, we are warm and fuzzy with plenty of dictators a hell of a lot worse than the Castros.

    Fifty-plus years of embargoes, sanctions and closed diplomacy has not accomplished the goal of removing them from power.
    That may be true, but we did it because they had something we needed. That's just not true here. We need nothing from Cuba. There's no good reason to change the policy.

    Obama's original idea: we don't have what it takes to fix what is broken, so let's fix what isn't broken and call it an achievement.
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