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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I like hearing about people's travels! Makes my life interesting because I may never get to visit many of those places! When my mom and sister were taken to see the Three Gorges Dam as part of their tour, they learned that individuals do not order from a menu when dining on a boat. The food was put on a revolving circular center table in big bowls and platters, and everyone took what they want from the offerings. The big bowls were not passed around person to person like we do at Thanksgiving, for instance, but it was more like a buffet, except they were seated on cushions on the floor, and they just reached out and put on their plate what they wanted, and you could have seconds and thirds if you wished - the bowls were constantly being refilled, and the table was constantly slowly revolving. It was also the first time they had ever used chopsticks, and it was hilarious for me to hear about their travails when trying to eat rice! :

    They may not have noticed, but the two eldest at the table first the man, then the woman were first to pour tea, the woman offering towels to guests and opening the meal. All reverence is paid to elders and dead ancestors.

    One thing I have found fascinating is how far they can stretch the simplest and strangest of food. One lobster can feed eight, some dough and chicken broth and pre-cooked meat and you have dim sum for 20.

    What most don't know is that each dish is carefully considered to be an interesting mixture of flavors, colors and textures. unlike our meals, they are they primarily to eat, not wax on small talk. Interesting too is that most Asians are predisposed to being thin and living long lives, which I attribute to diet.

    Chopsticks are really easy to master. It was cruel of them and maybe even deliberate not to provide an alternative or at least give simple instructions. Anyone can get the job done more efficiently than with a fork when taught how to hold them, after that it's like writing with a pen.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    In the meantime, capitalism has done this to the United States...

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    Brothers by a different mother?

    Wait, I found this photo from Cuba as well...

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    I don't think you can really assess a country with a couple of photos...
    How many Americans are risking life and limb to float off to Cuba ?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    In the meantime, capitalism has done this to the United States...

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    Brothers by a different mother?

    Wait, I found this photo from Cuba as well...

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    I don't think you can really assess a country with a couple of photos...



    Change of production methods and locations lead to urban decay. the hotel at the bottom is owned by Grupo Iberostar, they wouldn't invest in hotel in cuba if they couldn't make money off of it, not really comparable to "communism" since the hotel is private and for profit.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Change of production methods and locations lead to urban decay. the hotel at the bottom is owned by Grupo Iberostar, they wouldn't invest in hotel in cuba if they couldn't make money off of it, not really comparable to "communism" since the hotel is private and for profit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    How many Americans are risking life and limb to float off to Cuba ?
    Actually, a lot more than you would think....

    ‚€œTake This Plane to Cuba‚€Ě: Remembering the Hijackings of the 1960s
    http://modernamerica2011.wikispaces....ckings+-+1970s

    Airline hijackings to Cuba were a routine occurrence in the late 60s and early 70s. There were so many that the government decided to install metal detection devices at all US airports.

    As to urban decay, its not as simple as change in production methods. You do not see urban decay of US magnitude in most 1st world countries of Canada, within Europe and Australia.

    But, we digressing. No one is trying to juxtapose Cuba and the US to compare societies. That is a whole other discussion. I am only taking issue with the poster that thought he could well illustrate Cuba with a single photograph.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Obama apologized to a Communist dictator, Ruben Castro on top of everything

    What a disgrace.
    For talking too long on the phone. Seriously, Fenton.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years | Reuters

    I'm actually cautiously optimistic about this. We've had a rather odd relationship with Cuba ever since their fight for independence 100+ years ago but simple proximity makes some kind of normalization a matter of practicality.
    I think normalizing relations with Cuba at this time is a stupid move. All we will end up doing is propping up a tyrannical regime that did not give a sh*t about normalizing relations until they lost their sugar daddy when the USSR collapsed. We are throwing a lifeline to the regime that will offer little or no benefit to the rank and file Cuban. Any optimism at all can only be based on the fact that the bastard Castro brothers who run the nation are very old and will be soon knocking on deaths door. However the Castro offspring is already making noises suggesting nothing will change.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For talking too long on the phone. Seriously, Fenton.

    Apologizing to Communist dictator under any circumstance is disgraceful.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is great, 54 years of sanctions/embargo has done nothing, its time to stop this insanity. If we can do business with
    china, we certainly can do business with cuba.

    Way to go President Obama
    There is no question that companies and individuals doing business with Cuba will benefit. Sadly, on the other side....only the Cuban regime will benefit....not the rank and file Cubans.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Apologizing to Communist dictator under any circumstance is disgraceful.
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    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    I've never seen a President with such an amazing ability to make our enemies happy. Merry Christmas Raul Castro! Everything you wanted and you don't have to give up ANYTHING(human rights, elections et. al). Fleece him while you can. It will only last two more years! Something tells me President Christie won't be scheduling any visits to your happy island.

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