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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It changes current policy without the Congress involved. It is an abuse of power.
    The President makes foreign policy decisions. That's in the Constitution


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Err. I thought the office the of president could make changes to status of relationships on their own without consulting congress. Nixon went to China for example.

    Granted, to lift the embargo completely, a congressional act is needed, and last I heard, it's a pretty leaky embargo.
    Did Nixon execute an EO that would change China foreign policy by-passing Congress? If so produce it please.
    The problem is even if you thought the president's policy was the right policy, the problem is presidents don't get to do this. That's the job of the legislative branch of government. That is what's set forth in the United States Constitution

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The President makes foreign policy decisions. That's in the Constitution
    But what he did changed current law/policies rocket. He doesn't have authority to do such a thing. He can not legislate from the Oval Office.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Because he thinks it will secure him votes out of Miami. That's the only reason he is vomitting the garbage he is.
    So all those Cubans that were Anti Castro.....that have been all over the Radio and Media, that don't even live in Florida, speaking out on this. Are helping Rubio to secure him votes?


    What about the Garbage of BO Peep not even telling his Chair Menendez anything about this? How do you think that looks?

    How does it make you feel knowing.....that Repubs can pretty much wipe out this BO Peep EO and will have backing from the Demos?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Rubio and Menendez are malcontents who bring nothing to the table on this issue.



    The pardoning and release of thousands of political prisoners, allowing prominent opposition activists to return from exile, reducing internet censorship, eliminating media censorship boards, passing new labor laws including better wages and workers rights, etc. are all examples of the significant reforms brought about in Burma because of the diplomatic skill of this Administration.

    Oh, you mean their use to things being done by the Law. Yeah we can see how that makes them malcontents.

    Also you need to do some research on Burma. This time try not listening to just the US Media.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well sure, but the policy failed and so I see little risk and lots of upside potential to changing policy to something that doesn't have a 50 year record of failure.
    No one disagrees that the policy needs to be changed. Or that Congress can't come up with a real solution.

    But then I doubt Congress will forget the Human rights violations, or the killing of Civilian Americans. Like BO Peep did. More than likely they would demonstrate to Castro.....that they had to do more than just talk a good game.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Who said it was a "useless move" except right wing talking heads? Why would the Vatican or Canada get involved in negotiating something "useless?" It's a first step - do you have a suggestion about a better first step, or would you require that all the problems in Cuba be solved to Charles Krauthammer's liking before we do anything?

    And the last bit is just you being a partisan. If you can't think of any good reasons for better relations with a neighbor 90 miles off our coast, how that might benefit the people of Cuba, their relatives here in the U.S. and the Americas, use your imagination, maybe read something.

    It's not on the same level as Russia, but then it doesn't have to be on CanadaJohn's list of "Priority #1 Must Do Important!!!" items to make it worth doing.
    Canada and the Vatican can be honorable in their assistance - they were facilitators and there's nothing wrong with that. Canada and the Vatican are not bound by US legislation - Obama is. The very fact that Obama's EO will basically lapse in two years without Congressional action should tell you that.

    Secondly, I have know idea why you have such a hard-on for Charles K - I've never mentioned him and I have no idea what his position is in this matter. Some of us are actually capable of forming opinions on our own and expressing them.

    Thirdly, what, internally, in Cuba has changed that has brought about this new rapprochement between them and the US? What has Cuba done to enter the 21st century and to give and respect rights to their own people?

    Finally, I've asked but you haven't provided what you believe the US gains from this action. What national interest benefit is served here? Easier access to Cuban baseball players for the Chicago White Sox?
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You aren't getting your way so you call the president petulant? Priceless!
    Not getting my way? Seriously? You equate a sole Canadian with an opinion to the President of the United States?

    In case you haven't figured it out, there's a big difference. Your President thinks that his sole opinion should become the foreign and domestic policy of 300 million plus Americans, whether they or their Congressional representatives agree or not.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Cuba remains a safe haven for fugitives and terrorists and poises a huge border security problem as Cuba allows people from adversarial countries free travel to Cuba, such as North Korea. Cuba also will serve as a new money laundering foreign country, another foreign drug cartel problem and another location to shelter money from taxes.

    Opening Cuba to tourism will seriously harm other countries such as Jamaica, Haiti and Northern Mexico tourist destinations.

    Other than the endless guilt-tripping of the American left, who blames Cuba's problems on us, there is NO benefit to the USA lifting the embargo. Rather, another step in the left's open-borders policy.

    Isn't it time to lift the embargo on North Korea for all the terrible suffering we are causing North Koreans? That's the logic of the new hate-America left. Punish our friends. Reward our enemies.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well sure, but the policy failed and so I see little risk and lots of upside potential to changing policy to something that doesn't have a 50 year record of failure.
    Understanding you think Central and South America should have gone communist, yes you would see the embargo as a failed policy.

    But any words that come out of Obama's mouth are the words for God-the-savior himself and therefore a truism to be cheered and praised.

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