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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years | Reuters

    I'm actually cautiously optimistic about this. We've had a rather odd relationship with Cuba ever since their fight for independence 100+ years ago but simple proximity makes some kind of normalization a matter of practicality.
    its probably time,but alot has to do with raul in charge instead of fidel.fidel pulled alot of strings since he stepped down,but since raul took over,cuba has intriduced alot of freedoms not available to cuba in a long time.raul may be the leader to put cubas prosperity over the parties prosperity like fidel did,and given the changes sin ce fidels dictatorship,it mayh be worthwhile to look into relations rather than strict embargo.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It is people like you who does not question the motives or the constitutionality for Obama to make such an E.O. Oh no, you aren't interested in the details ....you could care less. why? because you are a Big Government kind of guy. Right?
    What part of this latest EO is unconstitutional? Please be specific....

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    WTF are you on about with this big government bull****? Where in the **** did I once EVER make a statement that I support big government.
    Gee you just stated it was "about time" giving your approval that it was done by E.O.. This all occurred by a president through an E.O. who bypassed Congress to make such calls. Yet his call is limited in what he can shove through temporarily. A Congress that has recessed for the holidays is when Obama makes his move to do such a thing. I don't know how to describe big government more clearly than when a president can avoid Congress to make new laws and change current policies on his own. In fact it was a Democrat, Senator Menendez currently in the chair position of Foreign Affairs who railed against Obama for his actions. There is disapprovel on both sides of the aisles on what Obama has done. Because it is something you would expect a King to do, not the president of the U.S. Yet you give it your blessings. duh!

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    What part of this latest EO is unconstitutional? Please be specific....
    It changes current policy without the Congress involved. It is an abuse of power.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Gee you just stated it was "about time" giving your approval that it was done by E.O.. This all occurred by a president through an E.O. who bypassed Congress to make such calls. Yet his call is limited in what he can shove through temporarily. A Congress that has recessed for the holidays is when Obama makes his move to do such a thing. I don't know how to describe big government more clearly than when a president can avoid Congress to make new laws and change current policies on his own. In fact it was a Democrat, Senator Menendez currently in the chair position of Foreign Affairs who railed against Obama for his actions. There is disapprovel on both sides of the aisles on what Obama has done. Because it is something you would expect a King to do, not the president of the U.S. Yet you give it your blessings. duh!
    About time... as in about time, it has taken long enough. Upon making that comment I had no idea how the decision was made. I just heard that it was made. Read whatever you want into it with your raging political bias and hatred if you like though... I see that you can't show that I support big government though, as expected...
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    About time... as in about time, it has taken long enough. Upon making that comment I had no idea how the decision was made. I just heard that it was made. Read whatever you want into it with your raging political bias and hatred if you like though... I see that you can't show that I support big government though, as expected...
    Maybe you should educate yourself on how something came about before giving it your blessing. Because when people don't do that, it makes them out to be hypocrites of what they claim they stand for.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    About time... the embargoes and sanctions have done nothing other than to hurt the people... who then flee to the USA.
    Even though this post has nothing to do with the current administration... Three people liked this post... how mad does that make Obama Haters?
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Maybe you should educate yourself on how something came about before giving it your blessing. Because when people don't do that, it makes them out to be hypocrites of what they claim they stand for.
    Wrong. It makes the ignorant. That said, how it came to be has literally NOTHING to do with the fact that it is long past due. Can you grasp that or is it too broad of a concept?

    Charles Manson has deserved to die for decades now. Say he was killed and I applauded that it finally happened, as in the case with Cuba. I later find out that he was tortured for a year by lighting parts of him sporadically on fire from time to time until they eventually covered him with sweets and let fire ants bite him to death in agonizing pain. THAT would suck, just like the E.O. sucks. That has NOTHING to do with being glad that Cuban sanctions are over OR that Charley Manson is dead.

    Are you able... just a little teeny bit, to see how that is logical and makes sense or is your hatred so blinding that you can't see that you are ****ing wrong?
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    So should Pres. Cruz (FSM help us...) sever ties with much of Europe, especially the Nordic countries. Lots of socialism going on in those countries!
    How about repressive socialist regimes? The EU and Nordic countries certainly aren't that.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It changes current policy without the Congress involved. It is an abuse of power.
    Err. I thought the office the of president could make changes to status of relationships on their own without consulting congress. Nixon went to China for example.

    Granted, to lift the embargo completely, a congressional act is needed, and last I heard, it's a pretty leaky embargo.
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