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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh, but it does show what Castro was doing from 96 til now, including shooting down two US Civilian aircraft killing four US Citizens. But then that doesn't matter much anymore, huh?

    Nor stopping any journalists and writers from reporting human rights violations. Just some more Forget me Nots, Right?
    I'm not defending Castro or his regime. I'm pointing out that our policy with regard to Cuba failed, for 50 years, to bring about any real change. Castro through his brother is still in power. I'm just not sure why people are so invested in maintaining something with a 50 year history of abject failure.

    It's sort of like people clinging to our 40 year old War on Drugs. It's failed in every way we can measure massive failure, but goodness knows we shouldn't try something different....

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    As we've understood the term, it is dead, which is why all 500 of the Fortune 500 almost surely have large business interests in China.
    And that explains the Chamber of Commerce giving kudos to Obama's Cuba E.O. and Amnesty E.O..

    Tell me Jasper, is it dead when the lives of the those under Communist rule don't personally benefit from their governments playing the markets?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You could certainly check the worst of those boxes if it was Saudi Arabia, including state sponsor of terrorism. I'm quite sure the average American is FAR more at risk because of wealthy Saudis sponsoring radical Islam in the ME and elsewhere than anything the Castro brothers have done in a couple decades at least - probably back to the Cuban missile crisis.
    Can't say that I think Saudi Arabia has anything to do with this.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm not defending Castro or his regime. I'm pointing out that our policy with regard to Cuba failed, for 50 years, to bring about any real change. Castro through his brother is still in power. I'm just not sure why people are so invested in maintaining something with a 50 year history of abject failure.

    It's sort of like people clinging to our 40 year old War on Drugs. It's failed in every way we can measure massive failure, but goodness knows we shouldn't try something different....
    Yet the policy has been based on Castro and his regime. Clinton confirmed and validated that.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Anthony. Well.....he is a democrat. So you know what happens when one doesn't read a bill. Yet signs it to look good for the cameras.



    The $1.1 trillion spending bill enacted last week, for example, contains Cuba-related provisions in its roughly 1,600 pages, including a prohibition against funds for U.S. agriculture programs from being used to directly finance or provide assistance to Cuba and a handful of other countries.....snip~
    I think any bill that is more than 30 pages should have to wait at least a week for every 100 pages before it can be passed.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    I'm not an expert on this issue, but won't this only strengthen the Castro brothers hold and power as well as legitimize their regime to the rest of the non-communist world?
    You pretty much nailed it.
    They got everything and we got nothing (unless you count somewhat easier access to Cuban cigars).

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    All you need is a mirror.
    Then, I guess, we are all extreme. At least in your erroneous judgement.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Shortly after which, US tourists will be spending their bucks in Cuba.
    And that money will go to....the Castro regime.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Obama waited till Congress convened for the holidays to pull his latest E.O. move and left them totally off guard. This man is dangerous. There is no other way to put it.
    The Sith Lord thinks he can do whatever he wants & whenever.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    And that money will go to....the Castro regime.
    True. Do we, in the US, want to be supporting a socialistic state with our money?
    I'm kinda against that, but it appears that Obama thinks otherwise.
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