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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Obama is doing what he said he was going to do. Engage with our enemies like he has done with Iran. It's 2014. The embargo hasn't worked. Open relations with cuba and let the growing youth in cuba be exposed to some sense of freedom or just to see what it looks like. And see what happens. I think some good will come out of it. Where is the threat in this. I simply don't see it.
    What freedoms are they being exposed to? Cubans already understand others are free and they are not. They understand they're not allowed to leave. They understand they can't watch the movies and TV others do and can't access the Internet.

    Do you really believe the people there are that stupid?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So what do you say to all those who been fighting against Castro? Those who have watched their family members killed. Those who sought Democracy.

    Just what do you say to them? "What".....forgetaboutit? All that you did means nothing....as some Fine Cigars and Rum will help boost BO's economy. You can see how that would go over real swell with those that watched family members executed.....huh?
    So why now? What's the President's rush to take this action? Raul is not going to live forever. Fidel is probably drooling on himself somewhere, perhaps he's even achieved room temperature.

    So, what is the end game? Where is the money in this deal?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Why has America gotten so scary about everything
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Don't hold your breath for a pro Obama rant, he is the one perpetrating this mistake.

    They are a totalitarian regime. Political prisoners. State sponsor of terrorism. Oppressive, communist dictatorship. And we should ignore that and just open an embassy in Havana? Are you kidding? I see no upside. What upside are you seeing? And don't tell me that if we are nice to them they will change. And we get what in return?
    For a moment there, I thought you were talking about Saudi Arabia.....

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    So why now? What's the President's rush to take this action? Raul is not going to live forever. Fidel is probably drooling on himself somewhere, perhaps he's even achieved room temperature.

    So, what is the end game? Where is the money in this deal?
    Heya Ocean. Well, maybe BO peep plans on trying to bring in those Cuban Doctors that are like Doctors For Diplomacy. Their good doctors.....they just practice that Communism BS wherever they go.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So what do you say to all those who been fighting against Castro? Those who have watched their family members killed. Those who sought Democracy.

    Just what do you say to them? "What".....forgetaboutit? All that you did means nothing....as some Fine Cigars and Rum will help boost BO's economy. You can see how that would go over real swell with those that watched family members executed.....huh?

    Oh, and which of these Demos were re-elected and why again? How long has Menendez been in the Senate?




    Menendez said. "Trading Mr. Gross for three convicted criminals sets an extremely dangerous precedent. It invites dictatorial and rogue regimes to use Americans serving overseas as bargaining chips."

    Reps. Chris Smith (R-4th Dist.) and Albio Sires (D-8th Dist.) have introduced legislation named for Foerster that would require the executive branch to tell Congress what the U.S. is doing to extradite fugitives from Cuba and other countries. Rather than bringing the Cuban people closer to democracy and freedom, by capitulating to the Castro brothers, the administration allows them to strengthen their grip on the Cuban people," said Rep. Chris Smith (R-4th Dist.). "Whatever joy we feel at the release of Alan Gross is tempered by the sadness that our president is enabling tyranny. And Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-9th Dist.) said he would "insist that any opening of relations comes side-by-side with an opening of the Cuban government's political system from totalitarianism to one that respects democracy, human rights, and personal freedoms.".....snip~
    The same way 58,000 soldier's families dealt with their losses in Vietnam.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    For a moment there, I thought you were talking about Saudi Arabia.....
    Well there is China.....but then you can see why Business is done with them, huh?

    Notice, how that isn't For a Few Dollars More.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Ocean. Well, maybe BO peep plans on trying to bring in those Cuban Doctors that are like Doctors For Diplomacy. Their good doctors.....they just practice that Communism BS wherever they go.
    They probably won't leave you bankrupt either if you ever get sick. And homeless.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Ocean. Well, maybe BO peep plans on trying to bring in those Cuban Doctors that are like Doctors For Diplomacy. Their good doctors.....they just practice that Communism BS wherever they go.
    I heard two interesting things on this while picking up my grand daughter from school. 1. It is the president's prerogative to recognize any country for diplomatic relations. He can open his Embassy etc. in Havana on his own. 2. Congress is the one who will have to lift the embargo.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    The same way 58,000 soldier's families dealt with their losses in Vietnam.

    Yeah, which was caused by Democrats that didn't know what they are doing.....You weren't looking to brag about that Tombstone they wear around their neck now were ya? One can see how that all worked out. Kind of like now with BO peeps failed Foreign Policy.

    I mean I know the guy is desperate to have something good come from his Policy. But do you think he should have been in Contact with those on the Foreign Affairs Committee to talk to them about what could be done?

    As his.....I felt this or that. Doesn't mean a whole lot to how Business is conducted. Nor is it even a good excuse.

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