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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Hysterical? Get a grip on reality and try to figure out why we have an embargo against Cuba. See my post above.
    The reality is your support for a 50+ year embargo that changed nothing is becoming more absurd with every response.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    yes, it's a long list but the people are still poor and trapped. What good has that long list done the Cuban people? The money goes into the pockets of the Castro family and those who have escaped, including his family, will tell you that.
    And what do you propose we do to handle that since a 50+ year plan has miserably failed to achieve any objective of a better Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact the polls, and the last election, show that the people are against Obama, not just the Republicans.
    I agree, which is why we are talking about Cuba and the merits of this embargo.

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    It's consistently been the same policy since Kennedy made the embargo official, though Jimmy Carter (an earlier version of BHO) also tried a deal with Castro. Castro must be laughing to himself again, as well as his fellow dictators. He gave up nothing.
    Realistically, what do you think Obama can accomplish with trade relations that your 50+ year plan failed to do?
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Cuba is, and has been, controlled. The sanctions work beautifully.

    And Cuba has not agreed to free elections, free press, free speech, free travel, or free anything for their citizens. So why are we doing this? We just traded three known spies for a plumber.
    Well we have an embassy in Vietnam where they captured and tortured your friend John McCain. why do we have one there and not cuba. Did we manage to change anything in Vietnam?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    And what do you propose we do to handle that since a 50+ year plan has miserably failed to achieve any objective of a better Cuba?
    It has been said repeatedly that perhaps Obama could have negotiated some freedoms for the Cuban people before making the move. This changes nothing. I don't know how to word this differently in order for you to understand.
    I agree, which is why we are talking about Cuba and the merits of this embargo.
    What merits are you talking about?
    Realistically, what do you think Obama can accomplish with trade relations that your 50+ year plan failed to do?
    It is not my plan, Slug.
    The official embargo was begun by Jack Kennedy in 1962. It was his plan and the same plan has been in place since then.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Well we have an embassy in Vietnam where they captured and tortured your friend John McCain. why do we have one there and not cuba. Did we manage to change anything in Vietnam?
    You think Cuba and Vietnam are the same? This is becoming too ridiculous!

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    The reality is your support for a 50+ year embargo that changed nothing is becoming more absurd with every response.
    Your ignorance is getting more and more pronounced. The information about the embargo, Cuba, and world politics does not seem to be penetrating into your skull.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You think Cuba and Vietnam are the same? This is becoming too ridiculous!
    What do you mean? they have human rights abuses. they don't have freedom of speech. they have political prisoners. they are communist. what's the difference. And they kicked our ass

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    What do you mean? they have human rights abuses. they don't have freedom of speech. they have political prisoners. they are communist. what's the difference. And they kicked our ass
    Another thread killed by a t-person.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

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    Another thread killed by a t-person.
    So that's what you come with. U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Remember that hopie changie term palin use to speak about so often. I think thats what this is about. Pope francis thinks so to. Young cubans may believe in that also.
    I'm not sure what you mean by that. Palin was just mocking the complete failure of Obama's policies. So you think it is about Obama just continuing the failed policies for no other reason than to change for change's sake? Might be. He wants to do it, and he's going to do it even if there is no real reason to do so.
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