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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    I can almost guarantee they may not be able to agree on bathroom break times let alone on impeaching the president. It's going to be a mess.
    The law suits the president/his administration faces at this time involving abuse of powers by the executive branch that are headed to the Supreme court are mounting. He's already been found guilty once. If other rulings are to follow what is the Congress left to do for such behavior except impeach?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    1. They'd have been "working on it" for yet another fifty years.
    2. "overturning" Obama care is not the issue so much as coming up with a replacement. Right now, there is no alternate plan.
    3. Yep. Pure partisan gamesmanship. That is one thing that they can do.
    4. I'll believe that when I see it happen.
    5. Followed by what? Four years of.... (fill in the blank)

    and none of the above answers the question of just why the Congress sits idly by and allows the president to rule by executive order. If Obama is really shredding the Constitution and instituting one man rule, as is being claimed, why don't our elected representatives do something about it?
    How can Congress prevent the President from issuing E.O.'s?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Hard to believe he began with an 80% approval rating and has since lost the House, the Senate, and now his approval ratings are well into the negatives.
    Don't act like that's something unbelievable. The Second Term, Midterm Presidential Curse has happened to many presidents. Republicans put in 100% effort to get his approval where it is today. Trying hard to destroy this man and he keeps bouncing back.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, I know but what good has this done the Cuban people? They are still trapped in Cuba under appalling living conditions. And what does Cuba have to trade anyway? They have no real industry.
    Ask those that trade with them, it happens to be a large list. As for Cuba itself, they seem to be no worse off with trade open to these other nations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, but that hasn't been happening.
    No real surprise. Obama does something, inherently Republicans are against it. But I've already agreed that Congress should be taking this on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Because it's up to the Castro family to change direction and there are no incentives for them to do so. Adding another country to the list of countries already on the trade list won't change a thing, which is the point many have raised. Why not negotiate something for the Cuban people before recognizing Cuba.

    Of course we can hope change will come but that hope has been going on for 50+ years now and there has been nada.
    Exactly, 50+ years of existing policy has been ineffective. Since the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result, the obvious solution is try something different.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    I'm waiting impatiently for this new house and Senate. Let's talk approval ratings then. You wanted it so bad,well you got it. I feel like it will guarantee a dem presidency in 2016. Go Cruz!
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They always did. Sanctions didn't work there, North Korea, Iraq, Iran....how long do we wait for the sanctions to get rid of the Castros, the Kims or the mullahs?
    Did they do something to give us a reason to lift the embargo? No, they didn't. What's the mentality? They are an oppressive dictatorship. Opening more trade with them won't help the people of Cuba in the least, but will give a much needed cash injection to the murderous regime. And we want to do that why?

    This embargo was been intact through Republican and Democrat presidents. The only thing changed now is that we have an incompetent fool in charge.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Your hysterical rant aside for a moment, have you proved in any regard that the embargo worked?
    Hysterical? Get a grip on reality and try to figure out why we have an embargo against Cuba. See my post above.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Did they do something to give us a reason to lift the embargo? No, they didn't. What's the mentality? They are an oppressive dictatorship. Opening more trade with them won't help the people of Cuba in the least, but will give a much needed cash injection to the murderous regime. And we want to do that why?

    This embargo was been intact through Republican and Democrat presidents. The only thing changed now is that we have an incompetent fool in charge.
    Remember that hopie changie term palin use to speak about so often. I think thats what this is about. Pope francis thinks so to. Young cubans may believe in that also.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Ask those that trade with them, it happens to be a large list. As for Cuba itself, they seem to be no worse off with trade open to these other nations.
    yes, it's a long list but the people are still poor and trapped. What good has that long list done the Cuban people? The money goes into the pockets of the Castro family and those who have escaped, including his family, will tell you that.
    No real surprise. Obama does something, inherently Republicans are against it. But I've already agreed that Congress should be taking this on.
    In fact the polls, and the last election, show that the people are against Obama, not just the Republicans.
    Exactly, 50+ years of existing policy has been ineffective. Since the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result, the obvious solution is try something different.
    It's consistently been the same policy since Kennedy made the embargo official, though Jimmy Carter (an earlier version of BHO) also tried a deal with Castro. Castro must be laughing to himself again, as well as his fellow dictators. He gave up nothing.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well those sanctions have worked so well in getting rid of the Castros, just like the sanctions against North Korea have made that country a democracy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
    Cuba is, and has been, controlled. The sanctions work beautifully.

    And Cuba has not agreed to free elections, free press, free speech, free travel, or free anything for their citizens. So why are we doing this? We just traded three known spies for a plumber.

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