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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

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    Indeed....Let us Normalize those relations. The only thing to fear is fear itself.
    You have a one track mind.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

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    U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years | Reuters

    I'm actually cautiously optimistic about this. We've had a rather odd relationship with Cuba ever since their fight for independence 100+ years ago but simple proximity makes some kind of normalization a matter of practicality.
    All they need do is give back the stuff they took from Americans and all would be well. Otherwise it has to come out of taxes. Don't you think.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    The United States of America did something good in the world today. I commend the President for his efforts.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

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    On a practical front, anything that would make fine Cuban cigars more available in the US is all the reason to restore some level of cooperation.
    The value will go down...

    I think it's an intriguing idea. I think that the time has come. But I'm also suspicious. Obama has shown a very deep positive interest in Wall Street, and of course this will open the flood gate: which in my view might lead to the reason that Castro took over in the first place. I also think that Obama's long range plan is highly subjective as I believe that his true goal is to be fully accepted by the powerful 1% in this country and thereby securing his own future.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

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    U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years | Reuters

    I'm actually cautiously optimistic about this. We've had a rather odd relationship with Cuba ever since their fight for independence 100+ years ago but simple proximity makes some kind of normalization a matter of practicality.
    Long overdue! Embargo was much too long! Heck, the embargo on Vietnam ended years ago...and if you can, go visit the county, it is amazing.

    I'd love to go scuba in Cuba....
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You have a one track mind.
    Not necessarily a bad track, though. If looking were doing, we'd all be convicted.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The value will go down...

    I think it's an intriguing idea. I think that the time has come. But I'm also suspicious. Obama has shown a very deep positive interest in Wall Street, and of course this will open the flood gate: which in my view might lead to the reason that Castro took over in the first place. I also think that Obama's long range plan is highly subjective as I believe that his true goal is to be fully accepted by the powerful 1% in this country and thereby securing his own future.
    There is a possibility the value would go down. Demand would certainly go up, which would put upward pressure on pricing for the finest brands. Lower quality labels would likely step in to market to the less discriminating.

    At this point, the only real value of Cuba is tourism, so I suppose developers could show some interest. As to Obama and the 1% crowd, his future is already secure, the package wrapped and marketed, so it can't be that.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

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    Not necessarily a bad track, though. If looking were doing, we'd all be convicted.
    I was convicted and sentenced at 12!
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    They'll be needing some newer cars, I think. The other plus is that they might no longer need to figure out how to make a Ford F-100 float.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    I oppose it because of how it was done. Another Obama E.O. then turns around and wants Congress to make it permanent. Also Obama was disingenuous with his remarks.
    Marco Rubio said the U.S. and Cuba were moving toward normalized banking and trade ties. He also said the U.S. was poised to open an embassy in Havana in the coming months.

    "This is going to do absolutely nothing to further human rights and democracy in Cuba," Rubio said in an interview. "But it potentially goes a long way in providing the economic lift that the Castro regime needs to become permanent fixtures in Cuba for generations to come."

    He's right. The people won't benefit from this. They will still be issued their allotted bags of beans and rice while the government gets rich.

    It seems like every week from Obama we get a new E.O. dramatically changing just about anything. One week it is writing legislation from the WH on Obamacare. Another week it is making his own appointees avoiding the confirmation process in Congress. Another week it is granting amnesty and changing immigration laws. Another was to give the EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade ..... decision based upon his goals and wishes that fit into the UN's plan of their international global warming carbon taxing agenda. And now this!

    An abuse of executive power I have never seen the likes of in my lifetime. A constitutional crisis in the making.

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