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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    There are plenty on the left and the right that have no appreciation in the way Obama goes about implementing his (progressive) "Change". You see they have a respect for our laws and Constitution and find his flagrant disregard for it by so often making himself a government of "one" very dangerous. Whatever he can't get passed in Congress, he announces a new E.O. to get what he wants. If changing laws/policies were suppose to be so damn easy, our free republic would have never been designed to include a Congress. Just a president with a pen!
    Then, why doesn't the Congress stand up on its hind legs and put an end to this authoritarian rule? Has it really become so dysfunctional, so limp wristed, so impotent that a president can simply take over both branches of government?

    Why don't our elected representatives address the issue of Cuba? Of illegal immigration? of health care? of anything at all? It's seriously time for a revolution at the ballot box in which we throw the rascals out and start over.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    There are plenty on the left and the right that have no appreciation in the way Obama goes about implementing his (progressive) "Change". You see they have a respect for our laws and Constitution and find his flagrant disregard for it by so often making himself a government of "one" very dangerous. Whatever he can't get passed in Congress, he announces a new E.O. to get what he wants. If changing laws/policies were suppose to be so damn easy, our free republic would have never been designed to include a Congress. Just a president with a pen!
    If he is trampling on the constitution or breaking laws why aren't republicans doing anything about it? Because he's not. Your just repeating what you've heard on tv with no actual facts. He's a constitutional scholar so I'm sure he knows how far he can go with out breaking any laws. And what do you mean whatever he can't get threw congress? Congress doesn't vote on anything. Lmao!

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Then, why doesn't the Congress stand up on its hind legs and put an end to this authoritarian rule? Has it really become so dysfunctional, so limp wristed, so impotent that a president can simply take over both branches of government?

    Why don't our elected representatives address the issue of Cuba? Of illegal immigration? of health care? of anything at all? It's seriously time for a revolution at the ballot box in which we throw the rascals out and start over.
    For the record, they were currently working on the Cuba issue. It just wasn't going fast enough for Obama. As far as health care, that can't be overturned unless there is a sitting president willing to overturn it. But the House has resorted to suing Obama for his over-reach of powers in Obamacare. The cap and trade/EPA stuff has all been addressed in the House and passed but until the last election, Reid has shelved the stuff to avoid sending it to Obama's desk for a signature/Veto. We will see some of that stuff getting passed on bi-partisan votes in the Senate but it will be doubtful that Obama will sign them. We have two more years of Hell with probably another basketful of E.O.'s coming out of the White House making MAJOR changes although temporary. The only good news is whatever he has implemented by E.O. can be stopped the minute he vacates the Oval Office with hopefully replacing him with someone with a greater appreciation for our Contstitution. Until then, God knows what this man will do.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Gee, what an upside. Trade with Cuba. Big deal. Who do you think will benefit from that? The people, or their dictators and army? Is that worth it? That's a hard decision?

    And tell me, what did we get back? More freedoms for the Cuban people? Opening up the country? Maybe cut back on the human rights violations? I thought Obama and the left were oh so concerned about torture and treating people well. But now Obama will overlook that in Cuba's case?

    There is no upside. That is why every President kept the embargo going. We never had one this clueless in office before. The Castros must be laughing at us.

    "What, the U.S. is lifting the embargo? Oh, no! What did we have to give up for that? HUH? NOTHING? LOL!"
    Your hysterical rant aside for a moment, have you proved in any regard that the embargo worked?
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    If he is trampling on the constitution or breaking laws why aren't republicans doing anything about it? Because he's not. Your just repeating what you've heard on tv with no actual facts. He's a constitutional scholar so I'm sure he knows how far he can go with out breaking any laws. And what do you mean whatever he can't get threw congress? Congress doesn't vote on anything. Lmao!
    Tell that to Professor Turley a Constitutional scholar and law professor at George Washington along with others who find Obama's actions an abuse of powers. Tell that to the Supreme Court who has already smacked Obama's hands over abuse of power in the Executive Branch.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    What makes you think that warming relations with Cuba has no benefit?
    In order to recommence diplomatic relations with Cuba Obama might have done some negotiating on the human rights issue, for example. Apparently this was not done.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Tell that to Professor Turley a Constitutional scholar and law professor at George Washington along with others who find Obama's actions an abuse of powers.
    Since he is abusing his power doesn't that warrant a impeachment? What's the hold up?

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Well he deserves it. He's done so much for you.
    Absolutely! He's proven so much, it's almost hard to keep it all straight!

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In order to recommence diplomatic relations with Cuba Obama might have done some negotiating on the human rights issue, for example. Apparently this was not done.
    So Obama should have done something that a 50+ year old embargo failed to do? That is your story?

    And if you really feel that human rights is a prerequisite for trade and/or relations then that alone would eliminate over half (perhaps as high as 75%) of the world we currently trade and/or have relations with. Including one major nation that builds an overwhelming percentage of the things we buy every single day.

    Let me ask this another way in terms of general foreign policy... why do various nations have different standards to gain your good graces in doing business with? Perhaps a better question is why is human rights an issue to do business with Cuba but not others?
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Rials6 View Post
    Since he is abusing his power doesn't that warrant a impeachment? What's the hold up?
    With the new Congress being sworn in in January giving an majority to the Republicans in both chambers, it may very well come to that as last resort.

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