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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Obama waited till Congress convened for the holidays to pull his latest E.O. move and left them totally off guard. This man is dangerous. There is no other way to put it.
    Good. I hope that Obama strikes fear in conservatives in his remaining months and uses whatever authority he has to fix broken sh!t.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Like I stated earlier, Senator Rubio blasted Obama's actions and showed just how disingenuous he was in making it out that Congress was not working on issues with Cuba. Today we also heard from Senator Medendez on the left. He is livid over Obama's actions.

    Menendez on Obama Cuba deal: 'I think it stinks' | NJ.com

    Obama waited till Congress convened for the holidays to pull his latest E.O. move and left them totally off guard. This man is dangerous. There is no other way to put it.
    Greetings, Vesper.

    China is also doing business with Cuba. I wonder if BHO got the idea from them at the G20 meeting, and decided to join in? Everything he does is political, so there's probably no altruistic motive here, IMO.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I oppose it because of how it was done. Another Obama E.O. then turns around and wants Congress to make it permanent. Also Obama was disingenuous with his remarks.
    Marco Rubio said the U.S. and Cuba were moving toward normalized banking and trade ties. He also said the U.S. was poised to open an embassy in Havana in the coming months.

    "This is going to do absolutely nothing to further human rights and democracy in Cuba," Rubio said in an interview. "But it potentially goes a long way in providing the economic lift that the Castro regime needs to become permanent fixtures in Cuba for generations to come."

    He's right. The people won't benefit from this. They will still be issued their allotted bags of beans and rice while the government gets rich.
    Sounds like the US economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It seems like every week from Obama we get a new E.O. dramatically changing just about anything. One week it is writing legislation from the WH on Obamacare. Another week it is making his own appointees avoiding the confirmation process in Congress. Another week it is granting amnesty and changing immigration laws. Another was to give the EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade ..... decision based upon his goals and wishes that fit into the UN's plan of their international global warming carbon taxing agenda. And now this!

    An abuse of executive power I have never seen the likes of in my lifetime. A constitutional crisis in the making.
    As for the executive orders, I say "way to go, Obama!" We still need another executive order to shut down Guantanamo.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Good. I hope that Obama strikes fear in conservatives in his remaining months and uses whatever authority he has to fix broken sh!t.
    Yeah, fear-reference the election last month.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Like I stated earlier, Senator Rubio blasted Obama's actions and showed just how disingenuous he was in making it out that Congress was not working on issues with Cuba. Today we also heard from Senator Medendez on the left. He is livid over Obama's actions.

    Menendez on Obama Cuba deal: 'I think it stinks' | NJ.com

    Obama waited till Congress convened for the holidays to pull his latest E.O. move and left them totally off guard. This man is dangerous. There is no other way to put it.
    Yeah V, Rubio did lay into him.


    "A Concession to a Tyranny": Marco Rubio Absolutely Blasts Obama's New Cuba Policy.....


    “No commitment was made to allowing the establishment of political parties or to even begin the semblance of a transition to democracy,” he said about the announcement. “In exchange for all of these concessions, the only thing the Cuban government agreed to do is free 53 political prisoners – who could wind up in jail tomorrow morning if they once again take up the cause of freedom – and to allow the United Nations and the Red Cross to monitor conditions on the island.”

    “These changes will lead to legitimacy for a government that shamelessly, continuously abuses human rights,” he said. “But it will not lead to assistance for those whose rights are being abused. It is just another concession to a tyranny – by the Obama administration – rather than a defense of every universal and inalienable right that our country was founded on and stands for. In short, what these changes are going to do is they will tighten this regime’s grip on power for decades to come.”

    This president is the single worst negotiator we’ve had in the White House in my lifetime,” he said. “[H]e has basically given the Cuban government everything it asked for and received no assurances of any advances in democracy and freedom in return." .....snip~

    "A Concession to a Tyranny": Marco Rubio Absolutely Blasts Obama's New Cuba Policy - Daniel Doherty

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is great, 54 years of sanctions/embargo has done nothing, its time to stop this insanity. If we can do business with
    china, we certainly can do business with cuba.

    Way to go President Obama
    I am formulating my opinion about this. I live in Florida and have lots of Cuban friends. I know people who have been political prisoners in Castro's prisons. I know an American who was in prison there because he went into a town he did not have permission to visit. The Cubans that I know want nothing to do with normalized relations with Cuba until Castro dies.

    Personally, I have no issue with normalized relations. Listening to analysis by politico's it seems that, while we might have received some concessions from the Cuban government with respect to human rights, freedom of information and reforms in their form of government, we instead just handed them a bag of goodies and told them to have a nice time. One talking head, possibly Rubio, called Obama the worst negotiator in American history.

    Right now my opinion is that this normalization is probably a good idea but clumsily handled and an opportunity missed. It's the kind of thing orchestrated by a community organizer, not an expert in foreign relations.

    As more details emerge, my opinion may shift one way or the other.
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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    And Honey Boo Boo Child, you forgot.
    No.....I accounted for Diane Feinstein.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Not to be the party pooper here, but doesn't the US have legislation and congressional action in place from previous administrations? How is it that the President decides, on his own, that all goes in the trash without any consultation or congressional action?
    He hasn't nullified any laws.

    As an aside, seems to me that Obama is basically that unpopular kid in highschool who takes pleasure out of being an a-one asshole just to irritate everyone else. If you don't like him, he'll show you. You're going to have two years of this childishness. Get used to it.
    That you don't care about about changing our stupid policy with Cuba doesn't make it 'childish.'

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No.....I accounted for Diane Feinstein.
    Sorry, just too lame. Even comparing Rush to Mama June wouldn't have cut it.
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: U.S., Cuba to restore diplomatic relations after 50 years

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Vesper.

    China is also doing business with Cuba. I wonder if BHO got the idea from them at the G20 meeting, and decided to join in? Everything he does is political, so there's probably no altruistic motive here, IMO.
    Heya Lady P. Menendez also blasted BO peep. Also some other Demos came out on it too.


    U.S. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) today blasted President Obama's decision to begin re-establishing diplomatic relations with Cuba and easing economic restrictions imposed on the communist country. Angry over Obama's failure to consult him on the talks involving Cuba, which lasted more than a year, Menendez said he would not approve easing the U.S. economic embargo on Cuba, which can only be done by Congress, and called on the incoming chairman of the committee, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) to hold hearings when the new Congress convenes in January. "Its a reward that a totalitarian regime does not deserve," Menendez said. "I reject the notion that somehow it is the United States that has created hardship on the Cuban people."

    Menendez said it looked like the U.S. was trading spies for Gross. "It was swap of convicted spies for an innocent American," Menendez said. "Trading Mr. Gross for three convicted criminals sets an extremely dangerous precedent. It invites dictatorial and rogue regimes to use Americans serving overseas as bargaining chips."

    Reps. Chris Smith (R-4th Dist.) and Albio Sires (D-8th Dist.) have introduced legislation named for Foerster that would require the executive branch to tell Congress what the U.S. is doing to extradite fugitives from Cuba and other countries. “Rather than bringing the Cuban people closer to democracy and freedom, by capitulating to the Castro brothers, the administration allows them to strengthen their grip on the Cuban people," said Rep. Chris Smith (R-4th Dist.). "Whatever joy we feel at the release of Alan Gross is tempered by the sadness that our president is enabling tyranny.” And Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-9th Dist.) said he would "insist that any opening of relations comes side-by-side with an opening of the Cuban government's political system from totalitarianism to one that respects democracy, human rights, and personal freedoms.".....snip~

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...it_stinks.html
    Last edited by MMC; 12-17-14 at 07:41 PM.

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