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Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle use

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Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle used in shooting

The parents of five kids killed at Sandy Hook school, along with the loved ones of four staffers who died in the 2012 massacre, are suing the maker of the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle that Adam Lanza used in the shooting. Two firearms distributors are also being sued. A lawyer for the families says the rifle was made for the military and unsuited for civilian use.

I feel for these people. I really do. But I hope that not only do they fail...which I'm sure they will...but I also hope that they will be counter sued for the money that its going to take to defend against this suit.
 
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In the mean time Remington refuses to call its recall a recall just to avoid admitting it is defective. Shut them down. Shut them all down.

Having read the original lawsuit, I think you gun fetishers will be surprised at where that case is going with its arguments.
 
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Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle used in shooting


I feel for these people. I really do. But I hope that not only do they fail...which I'm sure they will...but I also hope that they will be counter sued for the money that its going to take to defend against this suit.


I don't think a gun manufacturer is dumb enough to countersue grieving parents of gun victims.
 
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From Darrel Scott, a father of a child killed at Columbine:

Since the dawn of creation there has been both good and evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence.

The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.

The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.

In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA.

I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA — because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.

I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy — it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies!

Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves.

I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:

Your laws ignore our deepest needs
Your words are empty air
You've stripped away our heritage
You've outlawed simple prayer

Now gunshots fill our classrooms
And precious children die
You seek for answers everywhere
And ask the question "Why"?

You regulate restrictive laws
Through legislative creed
And yet you fail to understand
That God is what we need
Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc.

Spiritual influences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence.

And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs — politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties.

We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre.

The real villain lies within our own hearts.

Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers.

The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched!

We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored.

We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!

As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes — He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right!

I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain.

Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him.

To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!

My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!

Read more at snopes.com: Darrell Scott Testimony
 
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Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle used in shooting



I feel for these people. I really do. But I hope that not only do they fail...which I'm sure they will...but I also hope that they will be counter sued for the money that its going to take to defend against this suit.

its a moronic suit and the plaintiffs and their shyster attorneys should be hit with massive sanctions for filing such a bogus suit
 
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Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle used in shooting



I feel for these people. I really do. But I hope that not only do they fail...which I'm sure they will...but I also hope that they will be counter sued for the money that its going to take to defend against this suit.

In the mean time Remington refuses to call its recall a recall just to avoid admitting it is defective. Shut them down. Shut them all down.

Having read the original lawsuit, I think you gun fetishers will be surprised at where that case is going with its arguments.


Fat people need to sue the fork, knive and spoon industry because those tools are deadly to ones health.

Suing those gun entities with just as useless an argument only serves to make those who thought this whole thing was about gun control validated.
 
Re: Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle

In the mean time Remington refuses to call its recall a recall just to avoid admitting it is defective. Shut them down. Shut them all down.

Having read the original lawsuit, I think you gun fetishers will be surprised at where that case is going with its arguments.

what blithering nonsense. the rifle was legally sold pursuant to a background check and a waiting period. there is no grounds for the suit. we get it you hate guns and want them banned. Its a common theme among the far left
 
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I don't think a gun manufacturer is dumb enough to countersue grieving parents of gun victims.

they should sue the attorneys
 
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Fat people need to sue the fork, knive and spoon industry because those tools are deadly to ones health.

Suing those gun entities with just as useless an argument only serves to make those who thought this whole thing was about gun control validated.

Whether they feel validated or not won't change their position. Bias confirmation doesn't change bias.

They are going to argue that the AR-15 itself is defective because the manufacturer does not include the technology that keeps people other than the owner from being able to fire it and that defect removes it from the federal shield. Wait and see. This is going to be interesting.
 
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I don't think a gun manufacturer is dumb enough to countersue grieving parents of gun victims.

Parents of victims of violent crime turned anti-gun activist..

Fixed it.

No such thing as a gun victim.
 
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Whether they feel validated or not won't change their position. Bias confirmation doesn't change bias.

They are going to argue that the AR-15 itself is defective because the manufacturer does not include the technology that keeps people other than the owner from being able to fire it and that defect removes it from the federal shield. Wait and see. This is going to be interesting.

that's a losing argument and besides, there is federal legislation that prevents this sort of crappy nonsense.
 
Re: Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle

Whether they feel validated or not won't change their position. Bias confirmation doesn't change bias.

They are going to argue that the AR-15 itself is defective because the manufacturer does not include the technology that keeps people other than the owner from being able to fire it and that defect removes it from the federal shield. Wait and see. This is going to be interesting.

That law or technology doesn't and never has existed. You can't sue based on that.

BTW: ths AR platform has been around since the sixties. Millions are in circulation. None have a device to prevent another from using it other than a trigger lock or a good safe.
 
Re: Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle

That law or technology doesn't and never has existed. You can't sue based on that.

BTW: ths AR platform has been around since the sixties. Millions are in circulation. None have a device to prevent another from using it other than a trigger lock or a good safe.

the attorneys need to be bankrupted for filing crap they know is designed purely to harass the defendants and has no legitimate legal theory. Given most police agencies have these same rifles is going to bitch slap this nonsense away as well. this sort of lawsuit is exactly why we need to adopt loser pays rules
 
Re: Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle

That law or technology doesn't and never has existed. You can't sue based on that.

BTW: ths AR platform has been around since the sixties. Millions are in circulation. None have a device to prevent another from using it other than a trigger lock or a good safe.

Read the lawsuit. That nobody has it as a standard does not mean that it does not exist or cannot be done. Hell, a high school student in Colorado just invented a smart gun.
 
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Read the lawsuit. That nobody has it as a standard does not mean that it does not exist or cannot be done. Hell, a high school student in Colorado just invented a smart gun.

still a bogus suit.
 
Re: Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle

In the mean time Remington refuses to call its recall a recall just to avoid admitting it is defective. Shut them down. Shut them all down.

Having read the original lawsuit, I think you gun fetishers will be surprised at where that case is going with its arguments.

Link to that? I already know the truth. Just wondering if you have the nerve to actually tell it.
 
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Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle used in shooting



I feel for these people. I really do. But I hope that not only do they fail...which I'm sure they will...but I also hope that they will be counter sued for the money that its going to take to defend against this suit.

I have to agree on every level with you

Now if they had some proof that the manufacture was directly responsible for some illegal sells or distribution that would be one thing but if thier only argument (i havent read it yet) is "the rifle was made for the military and unsuited for civilian use." that got nothing really. While like you I feel for them, if i was the target of this Id have to respectfully tell them to stick up thier asses.
 
Re: Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle

Whether they feel validated or not won't change their position. Bias confirmation doesn't change bias.

They are going to argue that the AR-15 itself is defective because the manufacturer does not include the technology that keeps people other than the owner from being able to fire it and that defect removes it from the federal shield. Wait and see. This is going to be interesting.
Does your car have tech that limits who can use it? No. anyone with access to your key chain is a potential killer.
 
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its a moronic suit and the plaintiffs and their shyster attorneys should be hit with massive sanctions for filing such a bogus suit
Surprise! I agree with you TD.
 
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I don't think a gun manufacturer is dumb enough to countersue grieving parents of gun victims.

The correct term would be "grieving parents of Adam Lanza's victims".
 
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Link to that? I already know the truth. Just wondering if you have the nerve to actually tell it.

After the other thread on this subject talking about Sandy Hook with you and Henry David (I think?) I did a little more research about the conspiracy. I still think it's kind of crazy and I don't know how they could have pulled something like that off but I did watch a couple of interviews with some of the parents and their actions are certainly strange. Just strange in how parents of such violence that happened to their own child could be almost detached when talking about it. It's more about guns are bad than about I lost my baby. Yes, I would be mad about how it happened but there is no way in hell I could not break down on any level when discussing or being interviewed about what happened. I understand all people are different and perhaps not as emotional as me but not one of them on anything I watched seemed to show any kind of emotion like that - unless it seemed it was called for.
 
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Read the lawsuit. That nobody has it as a standard does not mean that it does not exist or cannot be done. Hell, a high school student in Colorado just invented a smart gun.

It's not going to fly, especially for self-defense.
 
Re: Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle

After the other thread on this subject talking about Sandy Hook with you and Henry David (I think?) I did a little more research about the conspiracy. I still think it's kind of crazy and I don't know how they could have pulled something like that off but I did watch a couple of interviews with some of the parents and their actions are certainly strange. Just strange in how parents of such violence that happened to their own child could be almost detached when talking about it. It's more about guns are bad than about I lost my baby. Yes, I would be mad about how it happened but there is no way in hell I could not break down on any level when discussing or being interviewed about what happened. I understand all people are different and perhaps not as emotional as me but not one of them on anything I watched seemed to show any kind of emotion like that - unless it seemed it was called for.
Look for the vid of the "parents" laughing and smiling before the initial interviews at the parking lot near the school. Yea, not looking like worried upset terrified parents.
Also, it was the first time I heard the term "crisis actors".
 
Re: Families of Newtown victims sue gun manufacturer, distributor and seller of rifle

After the other thread on this subject talking about Sandy Hook with you and Henry David (I think?) I did a little more research about the conspiracy. I still think it's kind of crazy and I don't know how they could have pulled something like that off but I did watch a couple of interviews with some of the parents and their actions are certainly strange. Just strange in how parents of such violence that happened to their own child could be almost detached when talking about it. It's more about guns are bad than about I lost my baby. Yes, I would be mad about how it happened but there is no way in hell I could not break down on any level when discussing or being interviewed about what happened. I understand all people are different and perhaps not as emotional as me but not one of them on anything I watched seemed to show any kind of emotion like that - unless it seemed it was called for.

I wish more people would take a serious look at that event. Lots of weirdness throughout.

Here's a video that needs to be watched before it no longer exist.

https://archive.org/details/WeNeedToTalkAboutSandyHookFullDocumentary720p
 
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