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    Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Obama is on track to take more high-level executive actions than any president since Harry Truman... according to a USA TODAY review of presidential documents.

    Like executive orders, presidential memoranda don't require action by Congress. They have the same force of law as executive orders and often have consequences just as far-reaching. And some of the most significant actions of the Obama presidency have come not by executive order but by presidential memoranda.

    Obama has made prolific use of memoranda despite his own claims that he's used his executive power less than other presidents. "The truth is, even with all the actions I've taken this year, I'm issuing executive orders at the lowest rate in more than 100 years," Obama said in a speech in Austin last July. "So it's not clear how it is that Republicans didn't seem to mind when President Bush took more executive actions than I did."

    ...Andrew Rudalevige, a presidency scholar at Bowdoin College. "But if you look at these other vehicles, he has been aggressive in his use of executive power."

    Executive orders are numbered — the most recent... Memoranda are not numbered, not indexed and, until recently, difficult to quantify.

    The law does not define the difference between an executive order and a memorandum, but it does say that the president should publish in the Federal Register executive orders and other documents that "have general applicability and legal effect."

    Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'
    This is how Demokrats define "most transparent administration."
    This is Mr. Hope & Change.
    ROTFLOL...

    It's sleazy, they know it, but hey... it's what they do... So what can R's do about it... espcially with The Demokrat's Sex Toy... John Boehner... he's a boner alright... an idiot if there ever was one. What's he gonna do? Have Congress challenge Obama...? ROTFLOL... Nooooo... he just opens all cavaties and says, let me be the instrument of your desires.
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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Stats are meaningless. There is nothing wrong with the President using his power. Its when he does something that ISNT his power that we have a problem.

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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Stats are meaningless. There is nothing wrong with the President using his power. Its when he does something that ISNT his power that we have a problem.
    You have a point. On the plus side, in this particular case, the President has made a bunch of his supporters look really stupid when he forces them to spin his overlord actions.

    Of course, since he has been hiding these EM's from the public, how would you know when he does something that ISN'T in his power to do?

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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Stats are meaningless. There is nothing wrong with the President using his power. Its when he does something that ISNT his power that we have a problem.
    I agree. I don't care how many EO's or memoranda's any President makes. I only care about the kind they make.

    If a President issued 1000 EO's recognizing every single type of holiday in existence in the US I could care less. If the President issued 1 EO declaring himself king and the Congress/Senate disbanded you can damn well be sure I'm going to care. (yes, extreme examples but you get the idea.)
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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Power vacuums are going to shift burdens. If the legislative branch reaches record lows of functionality, other wings will have greater pressures placed on them to maintain order. It sounds like your complaints should be addressed towards congress.
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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Power vacuums are going to shift burdens. If the legislative branch reaches record lows of functionality, other wings will have greater pressures placed on them to maintain order. It sounds like your complaints should be addressed towards congress.
    Power vacuums? You do know that the inaction of the Congress/Senate does not give any power away right?
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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Yeah, it is about content, not quantity. The POTUS is charged with running the Executive Branch. Orders and memoranda is how he issues instructions to those who work for him. They aren't going to read his mind. Criticize the content by all means but it looks foolish to criticize the number.

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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Power vacuums? You do know that the inaction of the Congress/Senate does not give any power away right?
    I'm sure I'll know via legitimate news agencies when anything the president has done is unconstitutional.
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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Stats are meaningless. There is nothing wrong with the President using his power. Its when he does something that ISNT his power that we have a problem.
    Do you even know what they are?

    All of them?

    This is the single most deceitful president in modern history. He wouldn't even reveal his most important legislation before the election, we don't know his school records, he lied about Obamacare and then lied about the lie. He has tricked and deceived, done the opposite of his pronouncements, this is perfect example - transparent secrecy with contempt for "stupid voters" and you are content to allow him to continue to do so....

    This isn't about good government, this is petty ego politics. My guy right or wrong.

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    Re: Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

    Is this another faux issue among the right?


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