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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The sharia bill calls for Islamic blasphemy laws — the criminalization of speech that offends or insults — who, exactly? Well, that is up to the enforcer, is it not? - See more at: Sharia in America: Democrats and Muslim Legislators seek to criminalize free speech | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs
    And Geller is right. These 'hate speech' laws have been used by Muslim groups everywhere so that any criticism pf Islam or Shariah law will be defined, by them, as "Hate Speech". The accused can be tied up in courts for years defending themselves from these charges, which pretty much silences criticism of any aspect of Islam.

    Those pushing the law have to know this, which will make the process quite interesting. I doubt it will ever pass.

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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The sharia bill calls for Islamic blasphemy laws — the criminalization of speech that offends or insults — who, exactly? Well, that is up to the enforcer, is it not? - See more at: Sharia in America: Democrats and Muslim Legislators seek to criminalize free speech | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs
    No it doesnt. It calls on the NTIA to update a report from 1993. "To require the National Telecommunications and Information Administration to update a report on the role of telecommunications, including the Internet, in the commission of hate crimes."


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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The sharia bill calls for Islamic blasphemy laws — the criminalization of speech that offends or insults — who, exactly? Well, that is up to the enforcer, is it not? - See more at: Sharia in America: Democrats and Muslim Legislators seek to criminalize free speech | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs
    It does no such thing. First it deals with hate crime - not hate speech. Second it mandates and ALREADY EXISTING report with more current information.

    Here is the entire text of the bill. Read it yourself - and not getting your information second hand from Pamela Geller who apparently doesn't know how to read - and then tell me again what it has to do with Sharia law.



    113th CONGRESS

    2d Session

    S. 2219

    IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

    April 8, 2014

    Mr. Markey introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation

    A BILL

    To require the National Telecommunications and Information Administration to update a report on the role of telecommunications, including the Internet, in the commission of hate crimes.


    1. Short title

    This Act may be cited as the " Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014 ".


    2. Report

    Section 155 of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration Organization Act (enacted as section 135 of Public Law 102–538 ; 106 Stat. 3542) is amended to read as follows:
    155.

    Report on the role of telecommunications in hate crimes
    (a) Report required

    Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of the Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014 , the NTIA, with the assistance of the Department of Justice, the Commission, and the United States Commission on Civil Rights, shall submit a report to the Committee on Energy and Commerce and the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation and the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate on the role of telecommunications in hate crimes in accordance with subsection (b).

    (b) Scope of report


    The report required under subsection (a) shall—

    (1) analyze information on the use of telecommunications, including the Internet, broadcast television and radio, cable television, public access television, commercial mobile services, and other electronic media, to advocate and encourage violent acts and the commission of crimes of hate, as described in the Hate Crime Statistics Act ( 28 U.S.C. 534 note);

    (2) include any recommendations, consistent with the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, that the NTIA determines are appropriate and necessary to address the use of telecommunications described in paragraph (1); and

    (3) update the previous report submitted under this section (as in effect before the date of enactment of the Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014 )
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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    It does no such thing. First it deals with hate crime - not hate speech. Second it mandates and ALREADY EXISTING report with more current information.

    Here is the entire text of the bill. Read it yourself - and not getting your information second hand from Pamela Geller who apparently doesn't know how to read - and then tell me again what it has to do with Sharia law.



    113th CONGRESS

    2d Session

    S. 2219

    IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

    April 8, 2014

    Mr. Markey introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation

    A BILL

    To require the National Telecommunications and Information Administration to update a report on the role of telecommunications, including the Internet, in the commission of hate crimes.


    1. Short title

    This Act may be cited as the " Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014 ".


    2. Report

    Section 155 of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration Organization Act (enacted as section 135 of Public Law 102–538 ; 106 Stat. 3542) is amended to read as follows:
    155.

    Report on the role of telecommunications in hate crimes
    (a) Report required

    Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of the Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014 , the NTIA, with the assistance of the Department of Justice, the Commission, and the United States Commission on Civil Rights, shall submit a report to the Committee on Energy and Commerce and the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation and the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate on the role of telecommunications in hate crimes in accordance with subsection (b).

    (b) Scope of report


    The report required under subsection (a) shall—

    (1) analyze information on the use of telecommunications, including the Internet, broadcast television and radio, cable television, public access television, commercial mobile services, and other electronic media, to advocate and encourage violent acts and the commission of crimes of hate, as described in the Hate Crime Statistics Act ( 28 U.S.C. 534 note);

    (2) include any recommendations, consistent with the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, that the NTIA determines are appropriate and necessary to address the use of telecommunications described in paragraph (1); and

    (3) update the previous report submitted under this section (as in effect before the date of enactment of the Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014 )
    You can scream that you wish to stay blind and deaf to attempts to bring Muslim law to the US, but give it time.

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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No it doesnt. It calls on the NTIA to update a report from 1993. "To require the National Telecommunications and Information Administration to update a report on the role of telecommunications, including the Internet, in the commission of hate crimes."
    Again, limiting speech. Clear 1st amendment attack.

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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And Geller is right. These 'hate speech' laws have been used by Muslim groups everywhere so that any criticism pf Islam or Shariah law will be defined, by them, as "Hate Speech". The accused can be tied up in courts for years defending themselves from these charges, which pretty much silences criticism of any aspect of Islam.

    Those pushing the law have to know this, which will make the process quite interesting. I doubt it will ever pass.
    Passing is not the first priority. They are doing this to find the cracks in the system.

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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You are inventing what ifs and expecting me to respond? Discuss the topic in real terms and I dont mind getting involved but otherwise it holds no interest for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They don't have to be members of ISIS in order to be influenced by ISIS. How do you think ISIS is recruiting Muslim men from around the world?
    That is functionally equivalent to my statements. If mine are nonsense - and they are - so is this.
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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Again, limiting speech. Clear 1st amendment attack.
    No it doesnt. It requests a study.


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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You can scream that you wish to stay blind and deaf to attempts to bring Muslim law to the US, but give it time.
    Who's screaming? What Geller is saying is simply not supported by the text of the legislation she's complaining about. If you want to get all riled up over someone else's stupidity have at it.
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    Re: Mosque approved in 5-0 Kennesaw City Council vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No it doesnt. It requests a study.
    To do what?

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