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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You've hilariously dug yourself into a deep hole and keep on digging.

    Here's Virginia: https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/leg...00+cod+18.2-39



    Here's the text of a Federal anti-lynching bill that passed the House three times in the 20s: "Anti-Lynching Bill," 1918



    Public offense is awfully broad - in that era, it might include a black man kissing a white woman, or any other reason a mob can think of to kill another person. There is certainly no reference to your made up definition.
    Public offense isn't broad at all. Nice try though, you think I wouldn't verify your posts?

    public offense = a term that is used to describe the conduct that is in violation of existing laws and is punishable by laws.

    What is PUBLIC OFFENSE? definition of PUBLIC OFFENSE (Black's Law Dictionary)

    lynching refers to someone accused of legal crime be it by a formal or informal group, and then executed without any due process.
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    One law in one state hardly disproves my point.

    Hey, gay marriage is illegal in at least one state, therefor it is right and should be illegal in all states.
    The text of laws certainly disproves your point in SC and VA, and at the Federal level. If you want, find a law that is consistent with your own view..... We'll be waiting patiently.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    A person is found dead and there are many questions surrounding the circumstance of his demise?

    Something about this death is seriously wrong.
    And you have seen me state questions shouldnt be asked...where? All I have said is that make sure you actually have an answer before you declare that a black kid was 'lynched'. For all anyone knows he DID commit suicide. Or hell, his moms said he had his new kicks stolen...now...who goes about stealing a black mans expensive shoes? And HERE is the comical part. People will read that sentence and JUMP to cry foul...say its racist that I might be blaming his death on a black person. You know who would say that? Someone that is rushing to speculate he was lynched by the KKK because he was bumpin uglies with a white woman.

    The point is...we dont KNOW what happened. Ask questions. Just dont start gearing up for a race war til you know there was an actual crime committed and by who.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And you have seen me state questions shouldnt be asked...where? All I have said is that make sure you actually have an answer before you declare that a black kid was 'lynched'. For all anyone knows he DID commit suicide. Or hell, his moms said he had his new kicks stolen...now...who goes about stealing a black mans expensive shoes? And HERE is the comical part. People will read that sentence and JUMP to cry foul...say its racist that I might be blaming his death on a black person. You know who would say that? Someone that is rushing to speculate he was lynched by the KKK because he was bumpin uglies with a white woman.

    The point is...we dont KNOW what happened. Ask questions. Just dont start gearing up for a race war til you know there was an actual crime committed and by who.
    Depend on the area you're in, especially a good pair of Jordans that can be anywhere from 100 to 300+ dollars shoes are definitely something to fight over in poor areas. I remember my dad telling me to wear my ****ty sneakers whenever we go to Bridgeport because he recalled a man having been killed because he strolled into a bad side of town with 100+ dollar brand new shiny Jordans.

    Although I agree with you, not that many people necessarily would make a fuss over shoes rather than steal something else that is a lot more accessible and maybe just as valuable.
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Then they did not lynch him.
    It seems you don't understand what a lynching actually is. Emmett Till committed to no crime and he was still lynched. Whether a crime took place or not is irrelevant, it was the perception that an offense took place that is important. That offense did not necessarily have to be a crime in the legal sense of the word. Here are more examples of no crime taking place and it still being called a lynched:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchin..._Frazier_Baker

    A 40-year-old schoolteacher, Frazier B. Baker, was appointed postmaster of Lake City, South Carolina in 1897 and immediately encountered fierce opposition from local whites.[2] While the surrounding Willamsburg county was 63% black, Lake City was, with fewer than a dozen black residents, overwhelmingly white.[3]

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    Unusually, the lynching was met with widespread condemnation. The lynching was defended by those who agreed with South Carolina Senator Benjamin Tillman's appraisal of the "proud people" of Lake City's refusal to receive "their mail from a nigger."[3]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony...hing_victim%29

    On October 21, 1916, Crawford was taking two loads of cotton and a load of seed into Abbeville and had a disagreement over the price of cottonseed with W.D. Barksdale, a white store owner. After Crawford left the store, one of Barksdale's employees followed him outside and hit him on the head with an ax handle. Crawford called for help, which drew police officer T.H. Botts. The officer arrested Crawford, most likely for his own protection, as a mob of angry whites was already beginning to accumulate.[5]
    Again, a crime in the legal sense of the word was not required for a lynching. Only that the person offend the right people. Learn some history "Luftwaffe"
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Public offense isn't broad at all. Nice try though, you think I wouldn't verify your posts?

    public offense = a term that is used to describe the conduct that is in violation of existing laws and is punishable by laws.

    What is PUBLIC OFFENSE? definition of PUBLIC OFFENSE (Black's Law Dictionary)

    lynching refers to someone accused of legal crime be it by a formal or informal group, and then executed without any due process.
    It certainly includes that definition, but there is no need for it to be a "legal crime." Read that federal definition again - "actual or supposed public offense." Blacks were lynched for real and imagined 'crimes.' Do you really think when the KKK strung a black man up on an oak branch that we'd call it one thing if he was accused of rape and another if the 'crime' was holding hands with a white woman (non-crime) or working to get blacks the opportunity to vote (non-crime). Of course not - they'd both be lynchings. Everyone but you accepts this. Besides, there's a very good chance "rape" in that era would include any sexual relations with a white woman, which was as made up a "crime" as the others.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    So....what it suicide or a murder? Curious minds want to know.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Depend on the area you're in, especially a good pair of Jordans that can be anywhere from 100 to 300+ dollars shoes are definitely something to fight over in poor areas. I remember my dad telling me to wear my ****ty sneakers whenever we go to Bridgeport because he recalled a man having been killed because he strolled into a bad side of town with 100+ dollar brand new shiny Jordans.

    Although I agree with you, not that many people necessarily would make a fuss over shoes rather than steal something else that is a lot more accessible and maybe just as valuable.
    Shoes (reported to be not his and 2 sizes too small) seem to be the biggest tell here.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Shoes (reported to be not his and 2 sizes too small) seem to be the biggest tell here.
    You mean he may have stolen them?
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Just out of curiosity...has it been mentioned anywhere if his 31 year old former girlfriend has been investigated for child abuse? NC Age of Consent laws would make it illegal for anyone 17 and under to be in a relationship with anyone more than 4 years their senior.

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