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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I would be willing to bet that in the list of ways to murder somebody, hanging them is pretty far down the list. On the other hand, lynching a black kid in the south who had a white girlfriend would hardly be a first, would it?
    Yes. the lynching of black men with white girlfriends seems to be a daily occurrence in the south.

    Back to sanity here...they should investigate further as they should any suicide where the family insists it can't be suicide or because there is suspicious evidence that needs further scrutiny, as there seems to be here. Those situations are far more common than black men getting lynched because they date white women. There is a zero racism element in this death right now, much as the NAACP wants there to be, and to the chagrin of the people use worn out lines like "if this was a white man, everyone in the neighborhood would be a suspect".

    I expect to see a lot of breaking news threads going forward about families insisting the death of their loved ones wasn't suicide as the coroner ruled, but was in fact murder.
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Ah, racial profiling.
    Well, I'm not a cop, but on point, would you actually expect, IF a crime happened, that it was blacks who hanged this person? It's obviously possible, but it's fair to say I'd be VERY surprised if that was the case.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well, I'm not a cop, but on point, would you actually expect, IF a crime happened, that it was blacks who hanged this person? It's obviously possible, but it's fair to say I'd be VERY surprised if that was the case.
    The line between citizen and cop is very thin these days as outrage by junior sleuths appears to be enough to reopen cases and redirect investigations.
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The line between citizen and cop is very thin these days as outrage by junior sleuths appears to be enough to reopen cases and redirect investigations.
    It's enough in a very tiny handful of cases that get widespread media attention. And in this case at least, it seems entirely appropriate. If this was my son/dad/brother, I can't imagine being satisfied about a finding of suicide given the questions. Admittedly, we don't know much about the investigation, but the reporting so far indicates they just glossed over some major questions.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes. the lynching of black men with white girlfriends seems to be a daily occurrence in the south.
    "Would hardly be the first" =/=> "daily occurrence in the South"

    I expect to see a lot of breaking news threads going forward about families insisting the death of their loved ones wasn't suicide as the coroner ruled, but was in fact murder.
    Fair enough, when the cops can't explain why the loved one wasn't wearing his own shoes, the shoes he walked out with were missing, he hanged himself with belts/leashes not his, and no one can explain the physics of how the hanging actually took place, or apparently explain how a 51 year old woman got him down without cutting said belts/leashes, etc. of if cut, why that belt never made it to the medical examiner, etc.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's enough in a very tiny handful of cases that get widespread media attention. And in this case at least, it seems entirely appropriate. If this was my son/dad/brother, I can't imagine being satisfied about a finding of suicide given the questions. Admittedly, we don't know much about the investigation, but the reporting so far indicates they just glossed over some major questions.
    That bolded section should be the beginning and the end of your statement on the case.
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Certainly suspicious, but since even the NAACP's pathologist did not mention ANY sign of struggle or defensive wounds, I would have to question how any person or number of persons would forcibly hang a big guy like this without there being a tussle.

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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Pretty much. I had a friend back in Compton who was by all means was well on his way to the NBA by 14 years of age. He was putting up Kobe numbers against guys who were 10 year older than him. By Compton standards, he had a perfect life, perfect girlfriend and parents who weren't rich, but had steady jobs and had stayed away from drugs in the early 90s (this is a bit of an accomplishment in 1990s California). One day after school, Jamie goes into his garage, hangs himself. The suicide note said "I can't take it anymore. I'm sorry." - Nobody saw it coming. When I mean nobody, I mean nobody. Not his parents. Not his teammates. Not his girlfriend. Not his friends. It was really sad because he literally could have become the next big thing in the NBA if he had kept going (and this is coming from someone who takes such claims with a grain of salt). Anywho, yeah I'll hold judgement on this until more evidence comes forward. It seems unlikely that somebody would just up and decide to hang themselves, but from personal experience, it's not impossible.
    I had an employee who came into work early one morning, clocked in, started working, then clocked back out telling a coworker that he had to go home and take care of his high middle school age daughter who was home sick. I really didn't think anything about it, the guy was an exceptional employee who had never before missed work. That evening, my wife and I were headed out to celebrate our anniversary, and we got a call from his wife. She said "he left us today". I thought she meant that they had separated, but she literally meant "left us". She found him at home, where he had hung himself from a rafter with a power cord.

    It's not hard for me to remember the date that he did that, and I've always wondered if there was something that I could have done. Something that I missed. Something that I said that maybe he took wrong. And yes, his daughter was at home sick from school that day. She had no idea that he had killed himself.
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Id have to disagree also, not saying thats what happened yet just saying I dont agree with the words "very few if any people in NC today care about such things", that ill never agree with. I have family in NC and thats not the case compared to pittsburgh, pa. By personal experience its much more racist than Pittsburgh. But again that doesnt mean this was in fact based on such.

    Now as far as the "killing" over race is concerned id like to think that NOBODY in america could do something so irrational and evil but thats not the case.
    Racism is still pretty prevalent in the North too. The only difference is that it's all out in the open in the South, while in the North, people hide it, while pointing fingers at the South.
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    Re: N.C. teen's hanging death ruled a suicide; mother says it was a lynching

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Because hanging a person to death isn't the normal method of killing someone else except in very specific circumstances.
    Yup, and we don't need no stinkin' evidence that this was a murder. Because we all know that the racial activists don't need it. It's murder, and it's murder with racial motives.
    Now let's all get out there and build a case for it, make it up if you have to.

    Good grief!

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