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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
    As a science student i can definitely say that science and religion are quite adversarial but most scientists are scared to say that
    Interesting comment, considering that most of the great universities of Europe and America were founded by religious orders, denominations, or patrons. Of course, these tended to be Christians. Perhaps that's not the case with Islam?
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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    So in other words it still had absolutely nothing to do with my post.

    Thanks for playing.
    I'm not playing and it has everything to do with the Taliban. You're welcome.
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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I'm a liberal and the evil of what the Taliban did sickened me.
    It's refreshing to see a liberal use a word like "evil." It's definitely progress. I'm sickened but also relieved in a sense, because this is a watershed moment for Pakistan. This was a huge tactical blunder by the Taliban. Already, the country's president has lifted its moratorium on the death penalty. Do you support that? And it looks like the army is going to step up its efforts against the group. I can see drones flying all over the place; you won't hear a peep out of Pakistanis about that in the wake of this. Would you support that? How about public hangings? I think that would be awesome.
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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Interesting comment, considering that most of the great universities of Europe and America were founded by religious orders, denominations, or patrons. Of course, these tended to be Christians. Perhaps that's not the case with Islam?
    Most of the great universities are ancient,so it's quite natural.
    There's one thing people tend to ignore,a scientist who lived in (let's say)1600 couldn't speak out and chant like "I don't believe in god" he/she could get killed.So I don't take it seriously when people object like "Great scientists were believers" We can never know whether these people were believers or not,because being an "unbeliever" was rather risky.

    Here's the list of atheist scientists in history

    List of atheists in science and technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That's literally all scientists in history Don't get me wrong,I'm not saying a religious person can never be a successful scientist but this list is the elephant in the room.

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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Radical Islam is a political ideology bonded to a religion, and one could argue leftist enviro-terrorists are the same.
    Just as one could argue that the moon is actually made of green cheese.
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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
    Most of the great universities are ancient,so it's quite natural.
    There's one thing people tend to ignore,a scientist who lived in (let's say)1600 couldn't speak out and chant like "I don't believe in god" he/she could get killed.So I don't take it seriously when people object like "Great scientists were believers" We can never know whether these people were believers or not,because being an "unbeliever" was rather risky.

    Here's the list of atheist scientists in history

    List of atheists in science and technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That's literally all scientists in history Don't get me wrong,I'm not saying a religious person can never be a successful scientist but this list is the elephant in the room.
    I'll give some other things to ponder. Some people say science is a religion but one that is based on nature rather than the supernatural. A cosmologist may take on the riddle of the fact that the universe expands at an increasing rate today, billions of years after the big bang. This fact flies in the fact of what we know about gravity. The law gravity tells us that the expansion should be slowing instead of increasing. A religious scholar might study the big bang and wonder what caused it. An example of such a scientist is the director of the Vatican observatory who is himself a Catholic priest and an astronomer. Science doesn't have the answer so perhaps it is God. Obviously this is a riddle to truth seekers on both sides of the issue.

    If you were to suggest to a pbysicist that the problem is that religious people define God poorly. Perhaps the first cause is god. Or the laws of physics are god. The lack of chaos in the universe is god. God is just a concept and is analyzed in different ways by different people. It doesn't have to be a man in a white robe whose son died for humanity's wrongdoing. The Physicist would be comfortable accepting a first cause or universal order from the laws of physics. It becomes a matter of definition.

    I think your position is simplisitc.

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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    It's refreshing to see a liberal use a word like "evil." It's definitely progress. I'm sickened but also relieved in a sense, because this is a watershed moment for Pakistan. This was a huge tactical blunder by the Taliban. Already, the country's president has lifted its moratorium on the death penalty. Do you support that? And it looks like the army is going to step up its efforts against the group. I can see drones flying all over the place; you won't hear a peep out of Pakistanis about that in the wake of this. Would you support that? How about public hangings? I think that would be awesome.
    I say I'm sickened by this act and you take it as an opportunity to condescend to me? I'm happy the murder of 140 children gives you some relief. I'm sure it will give many people great comfort.

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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I say I'm sickened by this act and you take it as an opportunity to condescend to me? I'm happy the murder of 140 children gives you some relief. I'm sure it will give many people great comfort.
    Only a monster would take comfort in the willful killing of children. I can't tell you what causes politics to separate people on a personal level but it does. Don't feel bad. I'm a non partisan and I get that treatment from both sides from time to time.

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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    So a medical procedure on an unborn fetus is the same as shooting a small child. And you have the nerve to talk about logic.
    The result is exactly the same. A child and the multiple generations that would have spawned from that child are all eliminated because of a single murder.

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    Re: 84 children killed as Taliban storm school

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The result is exactly the same. A child and the multiple generations that would have spawned from that child are all eliminated because of a single murder.
    Well, there is some logic to that. If you buy that life begins at conception, then killing a two cell zygote is no different from shooting a child at school.

    That is, if you believe that life begins at conception.
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