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    We train soldiers how to survive in war. We don't train them how to survive once they're home.
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    Re: Man kills 6 family members, still at large.

    Suspect wanted in 6 killings near Philadelphia found dead | Fox News

    At least the guy had the decency to self-terminate.

    I haven't really been following this but my understanding is that there's a 17 year old kid who just lost his whole family due to this guy. I'm not sure how you get over something like that. It's just a bum deal all the way around with this one.

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    Re: Man kills 6 family members, still at large.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Suspect wanted in 6 killings near Philadelphia found dead | Fox News

    At least the guy had the decency to self-terminate.

    I haven't really been following this but my understanding is that there's a 17 year old kid who just lost his whole family due to this guy. I'm not sure how you get over something like that. It's just a bum deal all the way around with this one.
    I saw that too. Glad the sonofabitch did himself in.

    To answer your second part...he won't get over it, not completely. He will move on, and try to be as normal as possible. But something like this will stay with you forever. I remember a case near where I grew up a decade or so ago where there were 2 sons in the family, one adopted (and lousy), and one biological (and good). The adopted son labelled bullets "Mom" and "Dad", and killed each one of them. I thought his brother would end up leading a lousy life, but he found religion, and after graduating from Dartmouth, he went on to be a very successful minister who runs missions and other things. I guess every teen reacts to something like this differently.
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    Re: Man kills 6 family members, still at large.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    We train soldiers how to survive in war. We don't train them how to survive once they're home.
    There are some places in Pennsylvania that are creating special veterans courts in the common pleas level to try to help these people hold it together when they do run into trouble with the law. It is a start. There is only so much you can do though. Crazy will happen no matter how much we spend in time and treasure trying to prevent it.

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    Thank you got demonstrating the depth of your ignorance. We were the first liberal democracy.
    No we were not. We where a republic, then a oligarchy. America was founded as a republic, now its a oligarchy. We have never been a democracy.

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    Re: Man kills 6 family members, still at large.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!!

    It was when you said Universal health care would give people access to the Health Care " they need and desire ".

    I couldn't help myself !!

    More Central planning Bull **** lies to suck in the easily entertained, huh ??

    Yes, take profit out of it to make it " equitable " and let " the people " run it... LOL !!

    Oh, and the Democrats were on board officially for the Wars when they voted FOR the Iraq resolution.
    I have said many times I don't like the dems either. I am a socialist. They are very far from socialism.

    You can have universal healthcare without central planing. I think we should have direct democracy, its about as far as possible from central planning.

    Do educate yourself on these topics if you wish to discuss them.

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    Re: Man kills 6 family members, still at large.

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Manhunt for 'Armed and Dangerous' Suspect in Pennsylvania Shooting Spree - ABC News

    Early this morning a ex military man who served in Iraq killed six people including his ex wife and a 14 year old girl. He is still at large.

    To me this is yet another reason to stop the wars. Allot of the people that come back suffer from PTSD, and that can make them unstable.
    Life in general is unstable, so the blows that cause PTSD can come from anywhere, not just a war zone. And war will never be entirely eliminated. Abandoning childish ideals earlier in life is most recommended. It doesn't hurt as much when realizing much further down the road in life that you'd propped yerself up on nothin' but pipedreams.

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    Re: Man kills 6 family members, still at large.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    G.W. Bush is a neoconservatives and the neoconservative movement started with in the Democrat Party by liberal Democrats.

    Both liberals with in the Democrat Party today and neoconservatives who fled to the GOP when the extreme radical left aka "New Left" hijacked the Democrat Party believe in nation building.
    Neo conservatism is a manifestation of the thinking of one man, Leo Strauss. He did not believe in liberalism by any means, and constantly questioned whether exceptionalism and liberty could live together. He is the father of the neoconservative thinkers that started out as liberal, and he himself was never liberal. Furthermore not all of them started as liberal, Kristol and Wursmer certainly did not.

    The thing that brought them all together was regansim. That's what converted the republican ones to conservatism, and brought them all together. They literally worked for him with the exception of Wurmser.

    Their are plenty of more classical conservatives in the republican party that believe in nation building. Just look at John Mcaine among many others.

    Also if dems are the ones that believe in nation building, why is it every war except for Korea and those under Clinton, began with a republican president? And why is Eisenhower that fathered the extremely flawed "domino theory" idea? An idea that has led to more wars in the post ww2 era than any other... Eisenhower was also one of the first corporatist presidents, appointing 7 millionaire business men and one union leader to his cabinet. None of whom had any expertise in politics, and obvious vested interests elsewhere.

    Democrats have expanded wars (technically military conflicts) greatly in some cases, like Vietnam, but a republican still started that war (Eisenhower)

    the term 'neocon' has evolved to simply be a shorthand version of "war supporting conservative" that's how I was using it.

    Honestly IMO both conservatism and liberalism have been dead in America for at least 50 years, possibly longer. We are stuck with corporatists on both sides...
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    Re: Man kills 6 family members, still at large.

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    This is pretty close to home for me. I hope they catch the guy before he can kill anyone else
    They got him... It looks like he committed seppuku...

    Yea this is pretty close to home for me two, and my gf works in that county... Scary stuff man... this area is having the nuts come out by the fistful it would seem. At least he wasn't targeting random people, that's what I thought when they first broke the story... That some dude had gone to different houses and was killing random people... It doesn't make it any better obviously, but it did make my gf feel allot safer about going to work that day....

    This is the kind of thing police should focus on, not irrational drug wars, protestors, or defending each other when they commit crimes themselves...
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    Re: Man kills 6 family members, still at large.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Not everyone sees combat!
    Yea its a still hard to go into a warzone and not see combat or the ramifications of it, and most do see combat. He was deployed as a marine from 2002 to 2011 in Iraq, I would be shocked if he did not...

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