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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    May God help them.
    No, they need real help. Talking to yourself and hoping your imaginary friend will step in is absurd.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is done all the time by Muslim leaders in the west.. it just rarely makes it in the news.
    It's done by Christians too when some members of the Christian community freak out and kill people. It's done to distance themselves from the carnage. They don't want to be seen as responsible. If they really didn't like it, they would have taken steps to throw these people out of their religious community before anything happened. If they really cared, they'd have already excommunicated extremists from their ranks before bad things went down. But they don't. This is just damage control.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, they need real help. Talking to yourself and hoping your imaginary friend will step in is absurd.
    Actually they no longer need to be rescued. Although I'm aware that atheists like yourself don't give a crap about reality.

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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Actually they no longer need to be rescued. Although I'm aware that atheists like yourself don't give a crap about reality.
    That's a general statement for all the times the crazy religious get on their knees to their imaginary friend instead of getting on their feet and actually doing anything useful.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's a general statement for all the times the crazy religious get on their knees to their imaginary friend instead of getting on their feet and actually doing anything useful.
    What else could I have done for them? Nothing, you're just attacking religion because you're a one-trick mule.

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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's pretty cool...And props to the Grand Mufti that Don posted earlier...That is what needs to be done by Muslim leaders more if they truly want to be separated from the nuts.
    The Grand Mufti might have stepped in earlier when this guy faced 50 charges of indecent and sexual assault during his time as a 'spiritual healer'. He also appeared in court for sending hate-filled letters to the families of soldiers killed in Afghanistan. It's very Christian to turn the other cheek and feel good about ourselves for being so forgiving towards those who murder innocent people, and this seems to happen whenever Muslims commit terrorism.

    The Muslim community always seems to get more sympathy than the families of those who were murdered.

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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    What else could I have done for them? Nothing, you're just attacking religion because you're a one-trick mule.
    Praying to a sky god to save people from other religious fanatics is probably the biggest example of Irony ever,
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    What else could I have done for them? Nothing, you're just attacking religion because you're a one-trick mule.
    In this case, nothing, which is exactly what prayer is. Nothing. Sometimes there is nothing that can be done and that simply has to be accepted. There are plenty of cases where people can do things, yet instead choose to get on their knees. That's pathetic.
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    re: Sydney siege: Hostages held in Lindt cafe[W:49]

    They have pretty strict Fun laws in Australia.

    I wonder if they're going to reconsider changing them after all this ?

    Makes me glad to be American and to have the Right to own a pistol.

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    Re: Islamist terrorist takes 13 hostages in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Praying to a sky god to save people from other religious fanatics is probably the biggest example of Irony ever,
    No, trying to convert people to atheism is.

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