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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    They are doing that because apparently there is demand for that. Not because of the existence of min wage. It would have happened anyhow.
    To an extent, but the cost-benefit analysis will still look at wage savings. Walmart delivers groceries in the UK but not in the US. There is demand for it certainly here, but they just have not figured out how to derive profit from it (that thing they call "scalability").

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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

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    To an extent, but the cost-benefit analysis will still look at wage savings. Walmart delivers groceries in the UK but not in the US. There is demand for it certainly here, but they just have not figured out how to derive profit from it (that thing they call "scalability").
    It's been tried over and over in the US and has always failed. I suspect it is because American consumers aren't responsible enough. It has to be mighty frustrating to deliver someone's groceries a the requested time, only to discover that they aren't home or to be attacked by the 7 dogs living under the trailer.
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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    I feel bad for people who sympathize with "people" yet then simultaneously equate human labor with other capital.
    my labor is a service that I provide. And I expect to be paid for it. Don't feel bad for me, because I take ownership of myself, and act accordingly, I do alright

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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    It's been tried over and over in the US and has always failed. I suspect it is because American consumers aren't responsible enough. It has to be mighty frustrating to deliver someone's groceries a the requested time, only to discover that they aren't home or to be attacked by the 7 dogs living under the trailer.
    Yet Walmart is considering it, among other things. They can make people pay online and drop them off at the door whether you are there or not at your own peril. Who knows what the model will look like when they finally deploy it. Home delivery doesn't always fail. It is the staple of pizza sales.

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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Yet Walmart is considering it, among other things. They can make people pay online and drop them off at the door whether you are there or not at your own peril. Who knows what the model will look like when they finally deploy it. Home delivery doesn't always fail. It is the staple of pizza sales.
    The difference is that when people order pizza, it's for immediate use, so they are almost always going to be home. When people order groceries, it's highly likely that they aren't at home at the time they place the order, and thus may not be home when the order is placed.

    Yup, they could be required to pay online, but there is still a big issue about animals getting to the food or the weather. I think people would probably have to have some sort of special container at their homes to accept the food.
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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

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    4 people.
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    3 remain unemployed regardless.

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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    The difference is that when people order pizza, it's for immediate use, so they are almost always going to be home. When people order groceries, it's highly likely that they aren't at home at the time they place the order, and thus may not be home when the order is placed.

    Yup, they could be required to pay online, but there is still a big issue about animals getting to the food or the weather. I think people would probably have to have some sort of special container at their homes to accept the food.
    Sure. Not everyone will use the service and I am sure Walmart will look to see how they can attach a fee to it that both mitigates cost/loss and discourages 15,000 people from calling at 4:30 wanting a deli chicken on their doorstep at 5:15, or they could limit the options of what is available for delivery.

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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

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    Nor is it supposed to. It's the 'minimum wage.'
    There's that phrasing again. "Supposed to."

    Why do people keep declaring that minimum wage isn't "supposed to" let you feed yourself?
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    Re: Study: The 2007 minimum wage hike cost more than 1 million jobs during the recess

    You mean to tell me that increased costs forces business to adjust their overhead?

    Who'd a thunk it?

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