ocean515
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All that you really needed to say.
Yes I did. All that you needed to read?
All that you really needed to say.
So somehow being a low level guy assigned to a security detail means he's responsible for 9/11? Well, since I guess we cant actually prosecute the Saudi's who helped create all those guys (they sell us cheap oil! Great guys!) we need to find some scapegoat.
He admitted that some CIA officers' actions were "not authorized, were abhorrent and rightly should be repudiated by all. And we fell short in holding some officers accountable for their mistakes.".....snip~
It goes back to my original argument about terrorists and saving lives.
He admitted that some CIA officers' actions were "not authorized, were abhorrent and rightly should be repudiated by all. And we fell short in holding some officers accountable for their mistakes.".....snip~
Disgrace: Senate Democrats' Flawed, Reckless CIA Interrogation Report.....
What did this accomplish? It may fire up the lefty base and sate ideologues' political bloodlust after a brutal election, but this issue isn't a major advantage to posturing Democrats. Why? Americans overwhelmingly believe that "torture" is sometimes justified:
Disgrace: Senate Democrats' Flawed, Reckless CIA Interrogation Report - Guy Benson
Yes I did. All that you needed to read?
Let me help you out.
Showing someone pornography isn't torture in my book. Pouring gasoline down someone's throat and setting her ablaze is torture. Cutting off someone's ears and legs before killing them is torture. Taking a knife and slowly cutting someone to bits is torture.
To you pornography is torture.
My post was clear. And very brief.
Actually, yes. When you call a person a "thing" there really isn't a need to read any more. And rational discussion is obviously not going to happen.
Great. We now have national policy being done because people watch "24" and think its real.
Ok. So if that is the case, your decision to have a discussion means you're going to be irrational too?
Yeah, but we do have some actually go out there and put their ass on the line. Die for it too.
Not to many can handle whats out there. That's why they get to sit back and watch TV shows.
Yeah, but we do have some actually go out there and put their ass on the line. Die for it too.
Not to many can handle whats out there. That's why they get to sit back and watch TV shows.
Die for what? For a country where we believe that no one is above or beneath the law? A place where everyone has the right to a fair trial. A place where the government can't just take you away in the middle of the night based on the say so of a neighbor?
That place?
I'm not engaging with you on the topic of the thread. No point.
Do you really believe that the United States is admired for their 'ethics', or principles'? That suggests that other nations don;t believe they are the most ethical in the world, with the greatest number of principles. People around the world are watching the incredibly rapid decline of a once great superpower and laughing at the idea of American 'ethics', as though they are so very 'special'.Where the hell are our ethics? Our principles as a nation given the results we see today from all this?
Did you want to say they didn't die for what they believed in? Btw at least the Military get a headstone with their Name on it when they die. These guys get something, but nothing to identify them.
Americans voted in a serial liar as their President, re-elected him, and have since become ignored and distrusted around the world. America has become a country of domestic strong arm party politics with little talk ever of 'morals' or 'ethics'.Where the hell are our ethics? Our principles as a nation given the results we see today from all this?
Leftists certainly don;t complain much about these continuing stonings and beheadings. In fact to raise the question is to be called "Islamophobic".No, the US just does business with those who do these things (e.g. Saudis). Certainly America looks the other way with regard to stonings and beheadings when it suits them.
Yes, and many of them who put their asses on the line agree that our EIT/torture program was a national disgrace.
So what? They were fighting for a country that incarcerates six innocent people in Gitmo for five years, then releases them in South America, never having filed charges. They gave up their lives for a country that allows a captive to freeze to death chained to a concrete floor in the Salt Pit in Afghanistan, then note in passing that his rendition was a case of mistaken identity.
Your enemy is certainly amused by that attitude.I don't think we should have 'respect' for our enemy but I think we are just better than that.
What 'examples' have impressed your enemies thus far?Like we should set an example not lay down in the gutter.
They behead Americans and other foreigners they capture and have been doing it for years, while Americans complain about terrorists having to watch pornography and will again turn on themselves, just as we see on these related threads.Would you want someone a captured Amercian to get that same treatment?
Is anybody really taking the advice of GITMO inmates?
Say What Skipper, :2wave: England can't run around and point any fingers nor act like they had a better sense of morality. :naughty
Some do.....many don't. You didn't want to say that with many of those coming out of the woodwork that they are sticking up for Feinstein's Report. Did you?
That's a thin defence of depravity.