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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That is supposition, but meaningless. As it was an overreaction and did help OBL, the reality trumps any supposition on your part.
    I guess you just can't escape from your fantasy loop.
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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I guess you just can't escape from your fantasy loop.
    I was thinking the same of you. But you're not really addressing all I said. You're just stuck with something you think that is meaningless even if you're correct. You seem to completely miss what is being argued.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That is supposition, but meaningless. As it was an overreaction and did help OBL, the reality trumps any supposition on your part.
    Bush began Iraq plan pre-9/11, O'Neill says - The Boston Globe
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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Plan doesn't mean he would have. He needed an excuse. But as I said, it doesn't change anything I said. Not one thing. 9/11 happened. He used it, and it was an overreaction, over done, overstepped. And it helped OBL, giving him a second bite at the apple.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JUG View Post
    I recently came across this article of Samir Naji's 13 year incarceration at Gitmo. Obviously, this is a pretty convienent time for him to tell the tales of his cruel and unusual punishment. Which made me think; isn't that exactly what's being clamed here? Cruel and unusual punishment on United States territory. I've heard from my professor that an obvious consequence of closing Gitmo would be that if we brought these inmates back to the United States we would have to give them due-process. Well...I may be mistaken, but last time I checked, Guantanamo Bay is United states territory. I found it interesting how this man's story was written. Check it out if you wish to.

    Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames U.S. flag - CNN.com
    Just an example of how evil our government is. We should have never fought our middle eastern wars of liberal expansionism.

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Jack. you have to work on your comprehension. As it was an overreaction to 9/11, it does. As it helped OBL's purpose, it does. Now stay within that context and try to answer.
    Like all leftists, you really should adopt new theories. Especially when the evidence is placed in front of view. As well, you are giving OBL far too much credit.

    As the article posted by Jack Hays says"

    Candidate Bush, as early as 1999, made it clear that Iraq would be dealt with. In a speech at the Citadel military academy on Sept. 23, 1999, he said achieving peace in the world will "require firmness with regimes like North Korea and Iraq, regimes that hate our values and resent our success. I will address all these priorities in the future."
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    Beginning in the Clinton administration, official US policy called for "regime change" in Iraq, which had flouted United Nations resolutions put in place after the 1991 Persian Gulf War. But in the aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001, the Bush administration cast its campaign against Hussein as part of the war on terror.

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Like all leftists, you really should adopt new theories. Especially when the evidence is placed in front of view. As well, you are giving OBL far too much credit.
    Which is meaningless to what I said. And others have said this concerning OBL. I can link as well:

    On 9/11, Osama bin Laden Set a Trap To Lure America Into Perpetual War. Is He Winning?*|*H. A. Goodman






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    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which is meaningless to what I said. And others have said this concerning OBL. I can link as well: [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/on-911-osama-bin-laden-se_b_5911696.html]On 9/11, Osama bin Laden Set a Trap To Lure America Into Perpetual War. Is He Winning?*|*H. A. Goodman[/url and
    Yes, you can link as well but the links provided earlier were direct quotes and clear policy, not speculation by someone from Slate..

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Plan doesn't mean he would have. He needed an excuse. But as I said, it doesn't change anything I said. Not one thing. 9/11 happened. He used it, and it was an overreaction, over done, overstepped. And it helped OBL, giving him a second bite at the apple.
    You are free to believe as you wish, facts notwithstanding.
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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    The events of 11 September accomplished many goals, most of all them involving money. That's how false flag operations work in the ideal.

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