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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JUG View Post
    [SIZE=2][B]I I may be mistaken, but last time I checked, Guantanamo Bay is United states territory.
    Yes, you are mistaken. Guantanamo is Cuban terrirory leased by the U.S.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    You can do what you like. I'm saying that it's difficult to single out ISIS for beheadings and stonings when Saudi Arabia is far worse in this regard, and Western countries still do business with them. In fact, ISIS is born out of the religious extremism found in Saudi Arabia.
    Do you have any info on the Saud cutting children's heads off and blowing their heads off their shoulders? Crucifying people and leaving them up on the side of the road?

    As ISIS does.

    So much for the Saudi being as worse. Which isn't to say what they do is Right either. But now your argument, really isn't one.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin AW. Well militarily one can but that doesn't mean you use empathy and respect like Hillary stated. Do you actually think if we lay down an example this will stop the torture that is done to our people?

    What do you think is done to our people now? That aren't even military or Intel people. Nothing but some innocent people like aid workers and Journalists.
    Good morning MMC! I don't know if we set an example others will follow but I'd rather be the example than acting like the enemy. I can't deny what they are doing to innocent people is horrible but then those people should be captured, tried, and deat with and I just don't think we should be the ones doing it anymore. Let those countries fight the terrorism in their own countries and whatever happens happens. This may sound a little harsh and I do have the utmost respect for aid workers and journalists but they should know what and where they are going and the risks. As I just said in another torture thread, we need to start thinking of ourselves and our country for once.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Who cares what a murdering terrorist thinks of what “shames the U.S. flag”?
    Who did he murder? When was he convicted?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do you have any info on the Saud cutting children's heads off and blowing their heads off their shoulders? Crucifying people and leaving them up on the sideof the road?
    I'm not defending ISIS or Saudi Arabia. You seem to be doing a bit of goal post moving.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Good morning MMC! I don't know if we set an example others will follow but I'd rather be the example than acting like the enemy. I can't deny what they are doing to innocent people is horrible but then those people should be captured, tried, and deat with and I just don't think we should be the ones doing it anymore. Let those countries fight the terrorism in their own countries and whatever happens happens. This may sound a little harsh and I do have the utmost respect for aid workers and journalists but they should know what and where they are going and the risks. As I just said in another torture thread, we need to start thinking of ourselves and our country for once.

    Its not a difficult matter AW. We have a terrorist enemy who has knowledge of his battlefield, in order to save lives. That knowledge must be extracted. Now the FBI cannot get a terrorist to talk. Once that takes place. There is no other way to extract the info to save those lives. Or to know whats coming. Although really there should be no reason for FBI involvement in the First place and not with Prisoners of War.

    Can't just inject them with drugs and think that will work. Lives are in the balance....some not even ours. But they are those who believe in us and that we will help.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I'm not defending ISIS or Saudi Arabia. You seem to be doing a bit of goal post moving.
    No, no, no .....you wanted to empathize, remember. You wanted to blame the US for doing business with the Saud. To do so means you have to walk in their shoes. So those shoes the Saud has aren't the Right Fit, they are close. Just not that Cinderella.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Its not a difficult matter AW. We have a terrorist enemy who has knowledge of his battlefield, in order to save lives. That knowledge must be extracted. Now the FBI cannot get a terrorist to talk. Once that takes place. There is no other way to extract the info to save those lives. Or to know whats coming. Although really there should be no reason for FBI involvement in the First place and not with Prisoners of War.

    Can't just inject them with drugs and think that will work. Lives are in the balance....some not even ours. But they are those who believe in us and that we will help.
    I just don't agree with torture as a means to extract knowledge. Obviously for all the people we've caught since the war on terror began over a decade again, all that knowledge hasn't seemed to help us stop terrorism and it's in fact flourishing in some parts. So maybe there is a different possibly better way to do things which don't involve torturing.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I just don't agree with torture as a means to extract knowledge. Obviously for all the people we've caught since the war on terror began over a decade again, all that knowledge hasn't seemed to help us stop terrorism and it's in fact flourishing in some parts. So maybe there is a different possibly better way to do things which don't involve torturing.

    I understand it is a hard choice to make.....but it does get easier if one includes family or those who mean the most to them.

    That is false.....the Demos cherry picking a few cases doesn't tell the story and is not factual. ISIS killed over 5400 people last month alone. They have killed over 20k since June. Well over 20k. Which doesn't count AQ or Al nusra. Nor Ansar al Sharia.

    Just like they listed down rectal feeding.....what they didn't tell you. Was it, had nothing to do with Interrogation. Or any EIT's, it was medical that it had to be done to save their lives. It also wasn't the only means in getting them rehydrated. They had IVs in too.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Yes, you are mistaken. Guantanamo is Cuban terrirory leased by the U.S.
    And the disingenuous difference is?
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