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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Islamism began well before that. You should familiarize yourself with the movement because its very much in your future.
    There has always been some form of terrorists. So long as there are pissed off people without voice, there will be terrorists. What I want to know is how are you making it better?

    Hint....you haven't.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    13 years ago, terrorists struck our soil proper. 13 years. Today terrorists struck huge. Why? In 13 years we didn't solve the problem, in fact we seem to have made it worse. You don't understand history and data, huh?
    How did America make it worse?? Do you actually understand who the aggressors are, and their goals?

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    13 years ago, terrorists struck our soil proper. 13 years. Today terrorists struck huge. Why? In 13 years we didn't solve the problem, in fact we seem to have made it worse. You don't understand history and data, huh?
    And how does one solve the problem of terrorism, empathy?

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There has always been some form of terrorists. So long as there are pissed off people without voice, there will be terrorists. What I want to know is how are you making it better?

    Hint....you haven't.
    Damn! I've been talking to a child.

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    And how does one solve the problem of terrorism, empathy?
    Speaking of which, you may enjoy this. Best of the Web Today: Pathological Altruism - WSJ

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How did America make it worse?? Do you actually understand who the aggressors are, and their goals?
    How? Because it was at X%, we involved ourselves militarily, now it's Y% and Y>X

    Do you understand math and inequalities?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    And how does one solve the problem of terrorism, empathy?
    The truth? You can't. You can try to work with countries and people in order to create a more friendly environment and one built a bit better on trade and diplomacy. But the number will never be zero.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Damn! I've been talking to a child.
    Damn, you can only offer insult and can't engage in the debate.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yet another argument of convenience. Essentially "we have no plan, we have no end game, we've made things worse; but if we keep in this line for some undetermined number of decades, spend 10's of thousands of American lives, trillions of American dollars....well I'm sure it will be resolved".

    History doesn't really seem to support this argument.
    The war was not started by us. We can have all the plans we want but the other side gets to play too. Even if we were to cease all operations we would still be attacked. As an English churchman once observed, "It does no good for sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism if wolves remain of a contrary opinion." We fight until our enemies have been destroyed or cease to threaten us.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The war was not started by us. We can have all the plans we want but the other side gets to play too. Even if we were to cease all operations we would still be attacked. As an English churchman once observed, "It does no good for sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism if wolves remain of a contrary opinion." We fight until our enemies have been destroyed or cease to threaten us.
    This war wasn't started by us, but we've been meddling in the affairs of the middle east for over 60 years. Even more if you want to talk about conflict in general between Europe/West and the Middle East.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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