Page 79 of 99 FirstFirst ... 2969777879808189 ... LastLast
Results 781 to 790 of 982

Thread: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

  1. #781
    Sage


    Thoreau72's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 09:10 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    20,267

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Interrogations are not torture.

    I have been very consistent, as have you. You have been gleefully anti-American from your first post in this thread. I believe that winning trumps politeness. We make them uncomfortable and we keep them uncomfortable to get the information we believe they have.
    Gleefully anti-American?

    Why has the US government been so gleefully pro-torture and anti-human? Riddle me that.

  2. #782
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Last Seen
    03-03-17 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,813

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    As I said to your cohort (what's it feel like to be affiliated with a guy like j-mac), if you are so sure liberals are pussies, why not go to a rally full of liberals and yell it out? Head to one of those "I can't breath" rallies, wear a sign that says liberals are all pussies, and then report back to me and let me know how it worked out.

    It's easy for you to act tough on the Internet, guy. No one is impressed by you.
    A rally full of liberals? Isn't that called a mob or a riot? Where's that liquor store? No justice no drink!

  3. #783
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Last Seen
    03-03-17 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,813

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It really does not come down to that. It's a way to justify something, or rationalize it, or to engage in self delusion about what we did, but that's not a dividing line.
    I can see the difference. You cannot. My vision is fine. Your's is clouded by your emotions.

  4. #784
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Last Seen
    03-03-17 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,813

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In truth, if the CIA did torture terrorists in order to save the lives of innocent people, I could live with it.
    So could most everybody else.

  5. #785
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Last Seen
    03-03-17 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,813

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    We recognize the Geneva Concentions because it's a signed treaty.

    We recognize the UN Convention against Torture because it's a signed treaty.

    We violated it, though, and that will lead to several Americans not being able to travel freely abroad, because of the chance or arrest and trial. Sorry to break the news to you.
    We can put a stop to that nonsense. Any nation seizing citizens is a hostile country and should be dealt with harshly. We can stop funding the united nations. That bunch of cutthroats, liars perverts and thieves would fall apart. We need to begin defunding every leftist pet project that is not useful to further American causes and make life better for American citizens.

  6. #786
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Last Seen
    03-03-17 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,813

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    BTW, I also doubt if JoG got to experience this: "On November ,2002,a detainee who had been held partially nude and chained to a concrete floor died from suspected hypothermia at the facility." Or being kept awake for 180 hours, or sleeping in a small box, or on good days a coffin, always in solitary confinement. Etc.
    I think the subject who died fits into the first phase of unpreparedness to take on this large task. I believe one other subject died but I have not been able to confirm it.

    No big deal.

  7. #787
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Last Seen
    03-03-17 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,813

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    What caused the damage was our torture program, and now what's causing more is a near entire right wing defending it.
    This tells me that you are just as much a traitor as Feinstein.


    Funny that you're defending the CIA against hacking into the computers of lawmakers, accusing the people they hacked of a crime, lying about it, then doing nothing internally when caught. You are a blind partisan, so don't care when it's the democrats on the receiving end. I'm positive your tune would be different if it was Issa's committee, and DOJ doing the hacking. You should at least pretend to have the slightest bit of impartiality.

    As to the lone wolf, we've been targeted by terrorists for over a decade. They don't need any further motivation because all this was known by them, and has been serving as a recruiting tool since about 2003, which is one of the downsides of the torture program. I have no doubt right wingers will blame anything and everything bad on this report, and ignore all the history from 2001 to this point, but that's just because it doesn't have to have any basis - just blame it on democrats and the base will believe it.[/QUOTE]
    You will pay a price.

  8. #788
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    12-04-17 @ 09:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    12,361

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Gleefully anti-American?

    Why has the US government been so gleefully pro-torture and anti-human? Riddle me that.
    It is written into our declaration of independence. "We hold these thruths to be self evident that all men are scum."

  9. #789
    Sage

    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Tennessee
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    21,719

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I can see the difference. You cannot. My vision is fine. Your's is clouded by your emotions.
    Please explain how in the world whether something is torture or not depends on the "purpose." All that means is, with your definition, if we do it, it's not torture because we have a just "purpose." It's not supported by anything - no law or theory could possibly hinge the decision on something as subjective as its "purpose."

    Besides, what's a valid purpose that would excuse any technique - ripping out fingernails, electric shocks to the genitals, breaking bones one at a time, waterboarding - as not-torture? Who makes that determination - the person getting tortured/not-tortured or the government doing the torture/not-torture. You're surely not suggesting the government doing it gets to decide are you, although that's what's happening in the case of the U.S.?

  10. #790
    Sage

    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Tennessee
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    21,719

    Re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This tells me that you are just as much a traitor as Feinstein.
    First of all, without the acts, there would be nothing to reveal. And anyone who thought we could have an extensive rendition and brutal interrogation program going on for years without it being disclosed is criminally stupid.

    Second, I guess your definition of 'traitor' is someone who doesn't blindly accepts what his government does, and criticizes it when it does wrong. Of course, what it really means is someone who disagrees with far right wingers on what is a wrongdoing by government.

Page 79 of 99 FirstFirst ... 2969777879808189 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •