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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    "I do not trust government. If a politician tells me something or if a bureaucrat tells me something I would not believe it for a moment.

    But I do believe a process whose intent is to determine who is dangerous to us and who is not will work reasonably well given that it is our interest to make that determination. If it were not so we would have tens of thousands of prisoners and not just a few. Most were caught, documented, evaluated and released."
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    You do not trust the government but you believe every word out of Lyin' Dick's mouth? Good heavens you are conflicted.
    It is clear you made it to the very end of the first sentence. But that is about as far as you made it before you were compelled to respond.

    I understand. Sometimes reading two paragraphs is just too hard.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Eh, you never know do you? After all I only live about an hour and a half from you...But that aside, what makes your generalization any different from what you liberals call conservatives in one fashion or another every day, in every thread? And just for your edification, I don't have any problem what so ever voicing my views in public, and have done so many times...

    But see, I do think you believe your generalization, just as much as I believe mine, because you came up with it, so you must think it. In fact it is dishonest to say you don't believe it, and therefore cements my theory that liberals are pussies....What did you say to me? (In a whinny voice)"If you say it you'd better mean it"

    Now you're boring me....
    Good thing I know you don't have the mental aptitude to read a map and get here. But hey, congrats for making to the next step of the Internet Tough Guy: threatening to drive to the person (well hinting at it because we all know you won't actually come out and call me a pussy directly or directly threaten me online). You are quickly heading to the Internet Tough Guy Hall of Fame.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Are you implying that unlawful combatants should have Constitutional rights?

    You really should join the reality-based world.
    I think it was to keep them out of the reach of people just like you.


    I'm not implying anything, I said what I said and that's the end of it.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Good thing I know you don't have the mental aptitude to read a map and get here. But hey, congrats for making to the next step of the Internet Tough Guy: threatening to drive to the person (well hinting at it because we all know you won't actually come out and call me a pussy directly or directly threaten me online). You are quickly heading to the Internet Tough Guy Hall of Fame.
    what ever....Child.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    "Uncomfortable." You do realize that sounds ridiculous. When it was done to us, it was torture. Now we've redefined the horrific physical and psychological effects of torture to making people "uncomfortable." Question, though - if it just makes people uncomfortable, why would we need medical personnel on hand when we do it? No one has ever died from being uncomfortable.
    Yes. We made them uncomfortable in ways that played upon their worst fears. In addition we made them believe that this was how it would be for the rest of their lives. This technique works.

    One can never tell exactly where the limits of discomfort will lead one. We want the information we have. If someone gets excited and has a heart attack we want to keep them alive until they have nothing left to tell us.

    In another thread Garner was made briefly uncomfortable. He got excited, had a heart attack and died an hour after his discomfort.

    Are you aware that we also have lawyers who advise decision-makers?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Hilarious - I'll quote myself: "How can a group like ISIS have oil fields? They might control them temporarily, but they're not yet a country."
    It is clear that you believe you have struck upon some level of brilliance incomprehensible to me. Do you believe that only countries can sell oil? Have you never heard of the very large amount of pipeline theft that occurs? What do you believe happens to that oil?

    Hilarious indeed.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    what ever....Child.
    Add calling someone a kid into the Internet Tough Guy repertoire. Are you going for the clean sweep? So far we have:

    1) Calling a group of people pussies (though refusing to say it directly to one of them)
    2) Threatening to meet the person in public
    3) Calling the person a kid

    Do we have any Internet Tough Guy experts on this board? What's the next step? This is as far as I've ever gotten with one.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    No, but I can quote them, which I did. If can find any medical doctors defending rectal feedings as a legitimate medical procedure, please cite them.
    Did you quote? Did you block indent or use quotation marks?

    I am not claiming that taking a meal an unlawful combatant refuses to eat, turning it into a slushee and pumping it up their ass is a medical procedure. Nor did I play a doctor on the Internet. It seems clear to me the message to the asshole who refused the meal was very simple. We control you. Fight us and we will make it very uncomfortable for you.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I don't understand what is difficult here. If you're on board with the U.S. as a country that embraces torture as a legitimate interrogation tool, have the courage to admit that is your position.
    Interrogations are not torture.

    I have been very consistent, as have you. You have been gleefully anti-American from your first post in this thread. I believe that winning trumps politeness. We make them uncomfortable and we keep them uncomfortable to get the information we believe they have.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Interrogations are not torture.

    I have been very consistent, as have you. You have been gleefully anti-American from your first post in this thread. I believe that winning trumps politeness. We make them uncomfortable and we keep them uncomfortable to get the information we believe they have.
    Correct, interrogations are not torture. But "enhanced interrogation" techniques are, by definition and international law, torture.
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