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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JUG View Post
    He was never convicted of such crimes. How do you know he's a murdering terrorist?

    Indeed.

    Cut him lose like all of the other Gitmo detainees that were never convicted of a Crime so he can show us how to honor the American flag.

    ( He'll show us by heading straight back to the battlefield and or terrorist activities that cost American soldiers their lives )

    Bless his patriotism.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

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    fowl treatment for sure



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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JUG View Post
    I recently came across this article of Samir Naji's 13 year incarceration at Gitmo. Obviously, this is a pretty convienent time for him to tell the tales of his cruel and unusual punishment. Which made me think; isn't that exactly what's being clamed here? Cruel and unusual punishment on United States territory. I've heard from my professor that an obvious consequence of closing Gitmo would be that if we brought these inmates back to the United States we would have to give them due-process. Well...I may be mistaken, but last time I checked, Guantanamo Bay is United states territory. I found it interesting how this man's story was written. Check it out if you wish to.

    Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames U.S. flag - CNN.com
    Gitmo is a US Naval Base located on 45 acres of leased land in Cuba. It is not US territory.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Gitmo is a US Naval Base located on 45 acres of leased land in Cuba. It is not US territory.
    It is U.S. territory. Otherwise, they wouldn't have juristiction there. You can say any Embassy or Naval base is "leased", but it's U.S. territory.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JUG View Post
    I recently came across this article of Samir Naji's 13 year incarceration at Gitmo. Obviously, this is a pretty convienent time for him to tell the tales of his cruel and unusual punishment. Which made me think; isn't that exactly what's being clamed here? Cruel and unusual punishment on United States territory. I've heard from my professor that an obvious consequence of closing Gitmo would be that if we brought these inmates back to the United States we would have to give them due-process. Well...I may be mistaken, but last time I checked, Guantanamo Bay is United states territory. I found it interesting how this man's story was written. Check it out if you wish to.

    Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames U.S. flag - CNN.com
    Guantanamo is not US territory. Moreover, we are under no obligation to provide criminal justice due process to our enemies in war.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JUG View Post
    It is U.S. territory. Otherwise, they wouldn't have juristiction there. You can say any Embassy or Naval base is "leased", but it's U.S. territory.
    No. It was selected as a site for detainees specifically because it is beyond US Constitutional protections.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. It was selected as a site for detainees specifically because it is beyond US Constitutional protections.
    Maybe they thought it was.
    Supreme court majority opinion disagree with you.
    They said it is .
    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed...s/553/06-1195/

    The dissenting minority opinion aligns with yours, Scalias makes the best argument supporting your side I think.

    They had to let 56 % of the brown people ( that had asked for habeus corpus ) go, but after Obama changed the law again to tighten some loopholes , "Military Commision Act 2009 " to keep the Judges out of the torture chamber, the brown people appelant release rate dropped back down to 8%.

    Rock and a hard place, sack full of terrorists mixed with falsely accused cab drivers, some minors, you can either open the sack or not, absent a common law procedure.

    There was a mini guantonoma bay in Canada, much smaller scale, 7 or eight people disappeared into it without charge , same idea.
    Not too far from Toronto. Wasnt as big on the news, wouldn't surprise me that most Canadians don't even know about it.
    Last edited by Fred; 12-12-14 at 12:01 AM.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred View Post
    Maybe they thought it was.
    Supreme court majority opinion disagree with you.
    They said it is .
    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed...s/553/06-1195/

    The dissenting minority opinion aligns with yours, Scalias makes the best argument supporting your side I think.

    They had to let 56 % of the brown people ( that had asked for habeus corpus ) go, but after Obama changed the law again to tighten some loopholes , "Military Commision Act 2009 " to keep the Judges out of the torture chamber, the brown people appelant release rate dropped back down to 8%.

    Rock and a hard place, sack full of terrorists mixed with falsely accused cab drivers, some minors, you can either open the sack or not, absent a common law procedure.

    There was a mini guantonoma bay in Canada, much smaller scale, 7 or eight people disappeared into it without charge , same idea.
    Not too far from Toronto. Wasnt as big on the news, wouldn't surprise me that most Canadians don't even know about it.
    Interesting. Thanks.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Interesting. Thanks.
    Which places it as downright unconstitutional.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    What's ignorant?

    1) Reading that a person was injected with an unknown substance; kept in a small, cold cell without any clothing to keep warm; deprived of sleep; denied due process; slapped; force fed; interrogated for hours; subjected to odd pornography; forcibly shaved; stepped on; hit; pushed to the point of hypothermia; etc and then saying "pornography is torture now?"
    2) Reading the above and wondering if that person is sane?

    You're right, I'm out of line. Make it a great one. It will be a pleasure never having to talk to you again.
    I did think the word 'psychopath' was a bit extreme.

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