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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Just curious - I suppose that is the system you'd be satisfied with for U.S. detainees? After all, if another country accuses them, then they (the U.S. citizen) is surely guilty and should be summarily tried in a kangaroo court and executed. Right?
    You are not curious.

    Where were the individuals captured? Were they waging war against the "host" country? Were they in uniform and was the war declared? If so they are Prisoners of War and must be treated humanely. Anything else is an act of war. Under an actual leader we might go to war to resolve such a travesty.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Just curious - I suppose that is the system you'd be satisfied with for U.S. detainees? After all, if another country accuses them, then they (the U.S. citizen) is surely guilty and should be summarily tried in a kangaroo court and executed. Right?
    No US adversary since WW2 has treated US captives decently. We have nothing left to lose on that score.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    But as far as I can tell, our obligation to determine if someone we hold actually did something wrong approaches zero.
    Who has said that? We retained very few people of the larger numbers we captured in or near battlefields.

    Certainly you haven't supported any actual process to determine such a thing that we'd recognize as a trial.
    Why do you foolishly believe this is a criminal proceeding? It is not. A captured person is a detainee until his status is changed to unlawful combatant or he is released. Most were released.

    So my assumption is if that American is accused, he obviously did something wrong, end of inquiry, or that would be the case if we followed the suggestions of the right wingers on this thread.
    I cannot fathom the twisted thinking of a liberal. It is almost as if we have had no history prior to the moment that liberal opened his eyes.

    We have no interest in holding people that were not waging war against us.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "McCain is all about McCain. He needs to leave the stage. He is a troll and he supports traitors. I cannot say if torture was involved. I have not read the report. I tend to doubt it. Either way Feinstein is a traitor and should be charged with treason for her act."



    Do I have to write this elsewhere and then quote myself?
    Are you dense, cite me your source on McCain and Feinstein being traitors to the country. If you can't do that, everyone is well within their rights to dismiss your McCarthyism garbage.


    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Feinstein's report will harm our relationships with countries who supported us.
    What will do more damage to our international relationships, the fact we torture people, or the report that shows that we torture people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    She had destroyed the CIA for at least two generations.
    How so?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    She needs to be charged with treason. She needs to be tried and I would like to see her execution as a traitor televised.
    Oh awesome, you're not only delusional but you are also a sociopath. Lovely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Now what citation would you like? Shall I reference this message?
    You know full well what I want citations for. Show your sources on how McCain and Feinstein committed treason.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Overreaching will continue, regardless of who's in the White House.
    Give government a program, no matter how lofty it's goals may appear--- e.g. "keeping us safe" , and it will be abused.
    Have you noticed most of our fears are created by government? You have people who are Hell bent on causing chaos, death and destruction to this country.
    Instead of securing the borders as the Constitution requires, we now have 11 million people who entered this country illegally. We don't know anything about many of them. They could be mass murderers to members of some terrorist organization so the situation creates fear.
    None of them went through the normal health physical that legal immigrants do so that too creates fear.
    The 9/11 attacks were carried out by those who were here on expired visas. The government has done nothing to reform our policies in regard to visas and not too long ago it was reported that there are thousands of foreigners in this country on expired visas and the government has lost track of them which creates fear.
    You have this current administration along with the UN pushing an agenda that fossil fuels are creating too much carbon and we are doomed if we continue to use it which creates fear.
    Fear is a very powerful tool for governments to obtain power they should not possess. Especially a society who claims freedom. Because when people live in fear they are more likely to relinquish their liberty and freedom to have a false sense of security. And I would venture to say where fear is being propagated it is by design to further chip away at liberty and freedom.

    But one can not leave out the ones that propagandizes the fear factor and that is our media. And when a media has a political agenda instead of just reporting the news you have a very dangerous situation.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    I dunno.
    I guess because I thought that was the purpose of EIT methods?
    That would be a golden nugget. They are very rare. But many other things are said during interrogations. They can be correlated with information gathered in a variety of other ways.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Why are you so stuck on bodily functions?

    I can't help you with all of this, but as a parent, I can offer advice with the bedwetting problem.
    No liquids after dinner.
    In your case, no grapefruit wine after dinner.
    This was pretty funny.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    What a lazy individual. Did you plan to actually make a case? It looks to me like the system works pretty well. Most individual were released. Isn't that what you would expect? It is what I would expect.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I see, soldiers who put their lives on the line for all of us are traitors, because they disagree with you and believe this country actually stands for important principles, among them basic human rights. Thanks for the explanation.
    You have sided with the traitor.

    It is clear what you are.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Global War on Terror (or The Long War as DoD would have it) continues.
    Someone captured 13 years ago in Afghanistan is hardly responsible for a terrorist group in Somalia.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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