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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I've done the review - they did what we did - board, incline, towel, water, etc. Maybe there is a magic cutoff - say 30 seconds. Over that ==> TORTURE!! And we always stayed under!

    Where do I get a detailed review of all 180 times we waterboarded KSM so I can compare and contrast with the Japanese? The tapes were destroyed, illegally.
    180 times is a lie. Why are you lying?
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Right, human rights, meh... overrated.
    That's another discussion.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    1. of course it's a different discussion, because you support the politician doing it...
    2. No, just pointing out your situational ethics
    3. they say we do, don't you believe them? You seem to on other issues.
    So I oppose droning and torture - where are the situational ethics?

    And I generally support Obama, and over the GOP alternatives, but am a thinking adult, which means I can do so and vehemently disagree with him on important matters.

    Who are they? And when did 'they' allege this, and what is the evidence and is there any evidence to the contrary, etc.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That's another discussion.
    No, you say they have no rights. What discussion would be appropriate to discuss your assertion they have no human rights or other rights? Or maybe they have 'rights' but not any way to assert them. Great....

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I've done the review - they did what we did - board, incline, towel, water, etc. Maybe there is a magic cutoff - say 30 seconds. Over that ==> TORTURE!! And we always stayed under!

    Where do I get a detailed review of all 180 times we waterboarded KSM so I can compare and contrast with the Japanese? The tapes were destroyed, illegally.
    The destruction of the tapes was perfectly legal, and wise. The 180 figure is a falsehood.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    180 times is a lie. Why are you lying?
    Ok then I'll settle for the analysis of the right number, whatever that is. What is it by the way?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The destruction of the tapes was perfectly legal, and wise. The 180 figure is a falsehood.
    Avoided the question again.... Good job on that!

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    So I oppose droning and torture - where are the situational ethics?

    And I generally support Obama, and over the GOP alternatives, but am a thinking adult, which means I can do so and vehemently disagree with him on important matters.

    Who are they? And when did 'they' allege this, and what is the evidence and is there any evidence to the contrary, etc.
    1. That you are opposing anything the previous administration did with detainees, yet don't want to discuss this one on droning...You say you're against it but don't even know the simplest of numbers on who was effected...

    2. Is that so? I don't see it much

    3. The Islamists you seem to be supporting all over this thread.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Ok then I'll settle for the analysis of the right number, whatever that is. What is it by the way?
    I've already provided reports from the time...He was waterboarded 5 times...But I suspect that you don't care if you were being dishonest about it anyway.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    No, you say they have no rights. What discussion would be appropriate to discuss your assertion they have no human rights or other rights? Or maybe they have 'rights' but not any way to assert them. Great....

    Your assertion was that human rights are overrated. I assume that was meant sarcastically. Regardless, the proposition opens another discussion.
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