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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Here is an idea: follow this definition of torture.

    UN Convention Against Torture
    We made people uncomfortable.

    BFD.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well, great. Human rights are just words for you. Good to know.
    They forfeited their rights when they became unlawful combatants.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    US combat operations ended in Afghanistan in October. It may not be wise, but it's not right to hold a man for 13 years without charge.
    Why do so many of you pretend this is about crimes or potential crimes? The people being held are unlawful combatants. The only right they have is to determine whether they are detainees or unlawful combatants. After that, if they cooperate and give us useful information let them live. Otherwise kill them.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Some were absolutely innocent - turned in by bounty hunters. But they have no rights, and should expect none in our custody. Got it.
    If you know of a case of an innocent placed in US custody by bounty hunters please share.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Any act of torture is condemnable. In my oppinion the scale or severity of the torture does not take away the fact that all acts of torture are dehumanizing. All acts of torture should be punished, no matter the scale.
    Okay. Making someone uncomfortable is not torture. Reading your messages is torture.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    All water boarding is not created equal.
    You keep saying that but haven't explained how U.S. waterboarding differs from the waterboarding we called torture when done TO us. Please do so at any time.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Should we ask congress why we can't bring the terrorists to court?
    It is because they are not criminals. They are unlawful combatants. They deserve a firing squad or hanging, whichever they least prefer.

    They can have a military tribunal to determine whether or not they are unlawful combatants. Then they can be executed.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You keep saying that but haven't explained how U.S. waterboarding differs from the waterboarding we called torture when done TO us. Please do so at any time.
    We're gentle, comparatively speaking.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I don't recall the United States adopting similar methods against the enemies we fought in previous wars.
    Were you alive then and in a place to see it? How many previous wars do you have experience with?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Now, much like the Church report in the 70s not much will come of it, other than rendering aid to the enemy in this case.

    Again no...By releasing it as a one sided, questionable, tirade it settles nothing but for partisans, and the divide they hope to further...Like I said, Church tried after Nam to do this, and did it change anything that happened today? No, not really....Neither will this.
    That report destroyed human intelligence collection. We, as a nation did not fully recover for 50 years. I believe this will have the same result. Feinstein is a criminal of the worst sort. She needs to be tried, convicted and...I am not allowed to say. Rules are rules.

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