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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    They were not innocent and we were never under an obligation to file charges. This is war, not law enforcement.
    Some were absolutely innocent - turned in by bounty hunters. But they have no rights, and should expect none in our custody. Got it.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    OK, so there are no actual differences, waterboarding is waterboarding no matter who does it, which is of course correct.
    All water boarding is not created equal.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It certainly is not Mi Lai, but don't think the United States should allow their people to do this junk and we should punish the idiot kids accordingly. But torture that certainly was not.more like ghetto schoolyard stuff.
    We made people uncomfortable. I am sure this makes you uncomfortable. Isn't it time to grow up?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think Jasper is inclined to believe such things right away.
    I believe things asserted by multiple sources, with no particular incentive to lie, such as the Red Cross, innocents detained at GITMO and others.

    Not sure why you wouldn't believe them too. You're cheering what they alleged happened! You should be glad they let us all know the U.S. interrogators have respected the rights of detainees - not at all - consistent with your recommendations. Torture, get information....

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Because to me what separates us from ISIS is that we don't resort to brutal techniques of killing and inflicting pain.

    What I was born to believe was that the United States condemed all forms of torture.
    Right. But this was not that. We made people uncomfortable. They rape women and then cut their guts out in front of their children and husbands. Have you absolutely no shame?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Pornography is considered taboo by devout practitioners of the Islamic faith. So being subjected to it would be considered torture.
    Do you have any plans to grow up someday?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Just the point. One of the standard pieces of baloney peddled in anti-American propaganda is that Muslim jihadists captured abroad have rights under the Constitution of the U.S. just like any ordinary American citizens. In fact unlawful combatants captured on or near a battlefield have almost no rights. And the jihadists are unlawful combatants of the worst kind. Almost everything they do--e.g. sabotage, fighting out of uniform, purposely targeting civilians, using them as human shields, murdering them to terrorize others into submission, using children, retarded people, and people whose families would otherwise be killed as human bombs, torturing and murdering legitimate prisoners of war and completely innocent civilians, fighting of out hospitals, schools, churches, and inhabited dwellings, and so on, is a violation of the laws of war.

    Try those who are not killed outright in military tribunals, hang ever last damn one that is convicted, and televise the executions live around the world. We need to stop worrying about what they might do to us, and make them worry every day about what we are going to do to them. If it takes area bombing of cities where the sympathetic locals are tolerating or even harboring them, then so be it. I believe a lot of civilians in Muslim countries are sympathetic to these bastards, and they should be made to appreciate the consequences of siding with war criminals who are bent on destroying us.
    What about those not captured anywhere near any 'battlefield' which in the War on Terror (TM) is any random city street anywhere in the ME?

    And it's nice to know you support targeting innocent civilians, kids and whatnot, so long as some are guilty. OBL would agree with you. And ISIS agrees with you on the public executions. Good to know you'd like us to descend to their level. And I can't see a downside of perhaps 1,000 public, televised executions.... Good ideas all.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It may be, and you might be an exception, but the other 99.99999% or so of the U.S. has deep moral objections to terrorism, such as that which occurred on 9/11 and didn't bother in the aftermath to really evaluate or give a damn about the 'end purpose' of AQ or ISIS, et al.

    But if you believe that, that there are no moral restraints on warfare, then fine. I'm glad your view is a minority one, or at least hope it is - if not then ALL I believe about my country and what is stands for is a sham.
    There are never any limits on warfare anywhere. The unacceptable becomes acceptable in direct proportion to the proximity of defeat. This is universal and has nothing to do with the underlying principles of any country.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I am not justifying the twisted train of thought the terrorists use to justify their madness.

    My stance is a simple principle: no human being deserves to be tortured.
    That is pretty simple.

    Do you accept that sometimes is is useful to make people uncomfortable? That is what was done.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    What does this mean? Does this mean they were not unlawful combatants?

    Why do so many of you believe this is a criminal justice issue? Fools treat war as a crime. An unlawful combatant should be tried, convicted and executed after it is clear he has nothing left to tell us.

    Or, if he cooperated he should be encouraged to remain in the general pool of detainees.
    Right, they were not unlawful combatants - innocent men, committed no crime, picked up by mistake or turned in by bounty hunters for the reward money. Etc.

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