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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    We made people uncomfortable. McCain is all about McCain. He needs to leave the stage. He is a troll and he supports traitors. I cannot say if torture was involved. I have not read the report. I tend to doubt it. Either way Feinstein is a traitor and should be charged with treason for her act.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I have a deep moral objection to their end purpose. Their tactics are a rational expression of their strengths and weaknesses. A moral evaluation of tactics is a useless exercise.
    It may be, and you might be an exception, but the other 99.99999% or so of the U.S. has deep moral objections to terrorism, such as that which occurred on 9/11 and didn't bother in the aftermath to really evaluate or give a damn about the 'end purpose' of AQ or ISIS, et al.

    But if you believe that, that there are no moral restraints on warfare, then fine. I'm glad your view is a minority one, or at least hope it is - if not then ALL I believe about my country and what is stands for is a sham.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Either way I like the concept. Did it break the enemy down so he told us things we wanted to know or confirmed he did not know anything more?
    OK, so you're on board with torture. Nice to know you have that in common with the late Saddam! I hope you're proud!

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    They are unlawful combatants. They are not protected by the Geneva Conventions. They are not prisoners of war in the classic sense as they did not wear uniforms, have badges of rank nor a country. They should be wrung dry of any useful information and then tried, convicted and executed.
    Just curious - I suppose that is the system you'd be satisfied with for U.S. detainees? After all, if another country accuses them, then they (the U.S. citizen) is surely guilty and should be summarily tried in a kangaroo court and executed. Right?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    An American citizen who is doing nothing wrong is not a prisoner of war.
    But as far as I can tell, our obligation to determine if someone we hold actually did something wrong approaches zero. Certainly you haven't supported any actual process to determine such a thing that we'd recognize as a trial. So my assumption is if that American is accused, he obviously did something wrong, end of inquiry, or that would be the case if we followed the suggestions of the right wingers on this thread.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JUG View Post
    I recently came across this article of Samir Naji's 13 year incarceration at Gitmo. Obviously, this is a pretty convienent time for him to tell the tales of his cruel and unusual punishment. Which made me think; isn't that exactly what's being clamed here? Cruel and unusual punishment on United States territory. I've heard from my professor that an obvious consequence of closing Gitmo would be that if we brought these inmates back to the United States we would have to give them due-process. Well...I may be mistaken, but last time I checked, Guantanamo Bay is United states territory. I found it interesting how this man's story was written. Check it out if you wish to.

    Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames U.S. flag - CNN.com

    regardless of my opinion on torture (which is a mostly negative opinion, but much more positive than my opinion on drone warfare)....I feel no sympathy for him.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    Why are you stuck on actionable intelligence?
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    I dunno.
    I guess because I thought that was the purpose of EIT methods?
    Why are you so stuck on bodily functions?

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    We gave them a prayer rug and an enema.
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    And you should have that erection looked at by a doctor.
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    In a similar vein the wannabe traitorous bedwetters' .
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Given your extensive knowledge of the subject, how many detainees were not unlawful combatants, or high value targets?

    An unlawful combatant has the right to a firing squad.
    Google is your friend Guantanamo Bay detention camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    We did not strip anyone of rights. They had none to start with.
    Well, great. Human rights are just words for you. Good to know.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Democrat party traitors have said so. And you hug the traitors.
    I see, soldiers who put their lives on the line for all of us are traitors, because they disagree with you and believe this country actually stands for important principles, among them basic human rights. Thanks for the explanation.

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