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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wasn't it KSM who provided the information on the compound that enabled the Seals to go in and capture Bin Laden?
    In the movie version Bin Laden was killed. The book might be different. You know how it is with movies. They so seldom follow the book.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It keeps the fear fresh.
    Anti-American propagandists also routinely cite that 180+ figure to mislead. Detailed descriptions of all the enhanced interrogation techniques are available online, and anyone who troubles to read them knows that what was being counted there was every single trial on the subject--each of which usually lasted about 15-20 seconds. Only so many of these could be conducted in any one session, only so many minutes of sessions per day, and so on. And a doctor had to be right there in the room monitoring everything. This coward was subjected to repeated, severe discomfort, and when he'd gotten enough of it, he changed his tune and began to give up his fellow cowards. The only mistake was in not trying and executing him as soon as he'd told all he knew. He continues to draw breath thirteen years after masterminding an attack meant to decapitate the government of the United States, conspiring to murder almost three thousand people in the process. What sort of jellyfish have we become, that we let this son of a bitch live?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I stopped reading at "PC."
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Now that is an interesting accusation. ISIS had oil fields. Have we retaken them? Have we destroyed the wellheads?
    Well they get funding from somewhere - if not the Saudis then who?

    The rest makes no sense to me. How can a group like ISIS have oil fields? They might control them temporarily, but they're not yet a country.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It is an effective way to address an enemy who seeks martyrdom.
    OK, so there are no actual differences, waterboarding is waterboarding no matter who does it, which is of course correct.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Medical doctor? Awesome.
    Medical doctors were quoted earlier. I'd do it again, but you have access to Google.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Weak-kneed Liberal Arts major.
    This was very funny. Okay, I admit it, I gave had two full glasses of Patti's Red Grapefruit Wine.

    And that may have made all the difference. :-)

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Somehow I'm not convinced that your ignorance is fully honest.

    But I'll play along. Combatants will fight harder if they believe that they will be tortured if they are captured, and will surrender easier if they believe they will be well cared for. Obviously you know this, because it's something a 5 year old could figure out.

    Which of course is why someone like John McCain would be against torture. Torture always results in a net negative for the side that does it.

    And also, lets stop pretending that anyone cares about the effectiveness or the ethics of torture. This isn't about intelligence, it's about revenge. If there were a painless truth drug that made a suspect give up every shred of information, the same people demanding torture now would still support torture. And what's worse, these same people would support it without being able to actually go through with it themselves. I find it hard to respect that.
    Now extend your reasoning to unlawful combatants. What is in it for going easy on them? By their nature they are fanatics already.

    We made people uncomfortable. McCain is all about McCain. He needs to leave the stage. He is a troll and he supports traitors. I cannot say if torture was involved. I have not read the report. I tend to doubt it. Either way Feinstein is a traitor and should be charged with treason for her act.

    Do you know of a drug that will break down someone's will and have them cooperating with their interrogator?

    And why do you believe anyone who supports making our enemies uncomfortable would have to be made uncomfortable themselves. Children believe these things. Adults do not speak this way.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This was very funny. Okay, I admit it, I gave had two full glasses of Patti's Red Grapefruit Wine.

    And that may have made all the difference. :-)
    Home made Sangria here.
    Only one large glass, lots of ice.
    I gotta maintain my sense of decorum as well as my equilibrium.
    No matter how cynical I become toward politicians, it's never enough.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Wow. Its like you just put a bunch of words in a blender and hit 'frappe'.
    This was clever. I really liked this. Sometimes I just come here to see how well we demolish each other.

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