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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I can certainly appreciate your concern of overreaching when it comes to gathering information on we the people. Heck look how willing the Democrats have been to further Obama's authority over NSA spying. It was bad when Bush started it, It's on steroids under Obama.
    Overreaching will continue, regardless of who's in the White House.
    Give government a program, no matter how lofty it's goals may appear--- e.g. "keeping us safe" , and it will be abused.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    We are part of the UN.

    we are supposed to enforce the rules in our country.
    No, we created the UN, paid and still pay for the lion share of their dues. We enforce the rules in this country that WE make. We are not beholden to the UN or their decisions unless we agree to be, and for only as long as we think it right to do so. That's world superpower 101.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Here is an idea: follow this definition of torture.



    UN Convention Against Torture
    Yes. I know the convention and a whole lot of the background and all. And the thing is that you should understand, what the context was and they referred to. Severe was what happened in Auschwitz and not in Gitmo. To equate them is a severe insult to the people that were really tortured.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by JUG View Post
    Which places it as downright unconstitutional.
    The decision came late in the game.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Yes. I know the convention and a whole lot of the background and all. And the thing is that you should understand, what the context was and they referred to. Severe was what happened in Auschwitz and not in Gitmo. To equate them is a severe insult to the people that were really tortured.
    Any act of torture is condemnable. In my oppinion the scale or severity of the torture does not take away the fact that all acts of torture are dehumanizing. All acts of torture should be punished, no matter the scale.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    US combat operations ended in Afghanistan in October. It may not be wise, but it's not right to hold a man for 13 years without charge.
    Technically, I may agree. However, how do we know there weren't legitimate charges that could be laid yet the Obama administration chose not to do so because Congress prohibited them from trying any Gitmo detainees in mainland US federal courts?
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Technically, I may agree. However, how do we know there weren't legitimate charges that could be laid yet the Obama administration chose not to do so because Congress prohibited them from trying any Gitmo detainees in mainland US federal courts?
    Should we ask congress why we can't bring the terrorists to court?
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Because the incoming GOP majority won't let the report see the light of day?
    The report's been complete for a year or two.
    If not now, when?
    Why not get with repubs and share and combine the two reports and come out with a unified report? Are liberals such children that they can't work with others?

    It's kind of a compliment that you read my previous posts and regurgitate them as your own.
    Sorry radio, not what I was doing...But kind of telling that you think so...

    Your partisan hackery is duly noted.
    Nobody gives a sh** about Gruber.
    I'll bet THIS time that relentlessly non-partisan Darrell Issa will produce incontrovertible evidence of scandal.
    He kicked ass on Benghazi.
    Ah name calling...Ain't it great when you have nothing? Gruber is very telling look into the liberal mindset...And I wouldn't count the chickens on Benghazi until all the investigating is done...

    Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
    Agreed, but please point out for us what in this report is anything new concerning how liberals feel about EIT?

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    Good to hear, because that made you libs look kind of crazy.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Should we ask congress why we can't bring the terrorists to court?
    I think the answer is twofold - one, no interest in providing terrorists with show trials and two, no interest in providing terrorists with the protections of the American judicial system.

    But I don't speak for Congress, so it wouldn't hurt to ask them directly.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I think the answer is twofold - one, no interest in providing terrorists with show trials and two, no interest in providing terrorists with the protections of the American judicial system.

    But I don't speak for Congress, so it wouldn't hurt to ask them directly.
    If they are not convicted, how can terrorists be properly punished?

    Who cares about the ravings of the unrepentant, put them on trial for the sake of actual justice.
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