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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I wonder how many would put that to a test with one of their family members. After they were kidnapped and tortured.
    Interesting.. So you can't answer the question. I'll ask it again, it's pretty simple.


    Why did the propagandists in WWII try to convince their own troops that the enemy would abuse and torture prisoners; and why did those same propagandists try to convince enemy troops that they would be well treated as prisoners?

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Interesting.. So you can't answer the question. I'll ask it again, it's pretty simple.


    Why did the propagandists in WWII try to convince their own troops that the enemy would abuse and torture prisoners; and why did those same propagandists try to convince enemy troops that they would be well treated as prisoners?

    I don't know..... Why did they do this. Lets here your take on this ****.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Interesting.. So you can't answer the question. I'll ask it again, it's pretty simple.


    Why did the propagandists in WWII try to convince their own troops that the enemy would abuse and torture prisoners; and why did those same propagandists try to convince enemy troops that they would be well treated as prisoners?
    Your question answers itself....It's a tactic...But, are you saying that AQ, or ISIS are equal to soldiers captured in WWII?
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sorry, I thought that was someone else.

    On point, I will say, I don't know if I consider waterboarding to be "torture"... But, I think it comes close enough to the line as to make it not preferable to use...That said, in extraordinary circumstances, all bets are off...
    I have no opinion either way (is it torture or not). And I was never waterboarded so I don't have any personal experience. I just know if something was so horrible that it's called torture, I can't imagine any human willingly going along with it over 180 times, and I would suspect that he was told that if he sang like a canary, the torture would stop.

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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You may
    Golly....thanks!





    Well, I know how you cons take Fox News as gospel, but their rebuttal seems to state that KSM was subjected to "waterboard lite" instead of the real deal.




    They were effective enough that KSM started giving classes to CIA after he was, as he put it, freed from his obligation to remain silent....
    Do tell.
    If I read this right, KSM is now a CIA asset?
    Strange bedfellows, eh?.....or maybe not so strange.
    Amazing that this putz KSM is still alive.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I have no opinion either way (is it torture or not). And I was never waterboarded so I don't have any personal experience. I just know if something was so horrible that it's called torture, I can't imagine any human willingly going along with it over 180 times, and I would suspect that he was told that if he sang like a canary, the torture would stop.

    Interesting.
    He wasn't waterboarded 180 separate times....It was 5 sessions, and the NYTimes that tried to push this false narrative to make the CIA look like monsters, counted every time during a session that water was spilled in the room.

    For instance, a session could include pouring water on him say 20 times, they count that as 20 seperate waterboardings...It is false.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wasn't it KSM who provided the information on the compound that enabled the Seals to go in and capture Bin Laden?
    Hey, tres.
    I've heard this stated and I've heard it debunked.
    Since KSM was captured in 2003, I'm not understanding what info he could have given that led to Bin Laden in 2011.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Golly....thanks!






    Well, I know how you cons take Fox News as gospel, but their rebuttal seems to state that KSM was subjected to "waterboard lite" instead of the real deal.





    Do tell.
    If I read this right, KSM is now a CIA asset?
    Strange bedfellows, eh?.....or maybe not so strange.
    Amazing that this putz KSM is still alive.
    *Sigh*

    1. This was well known in 2009....Tell me why you haven't caught up....?
    2. KSM is reported to have thanked his interrogators, for "Releasing him from his obligation to remain silent." Further, he is reported to have also told them "They should do this to all the brothers to ease their suffering in that respect."
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    . I'd only have to be tortured once to talk.
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    re: Gitmo inmate: My treatment shames American flag [W:508,759]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Hey, tres.
    I've heard this stated and I've heard it debunked.
    Since KSM was captured in 2003, I'm not understanding what info he could have given that led to Bin Laden in 2011.
    Heya Radioman. Didn't CIA say that the information led to the courier and from there they were able to set him up for the take down?

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