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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Careful what you wish for. Warren would break Hillary in the primaries, just like Obama did. Then you basically have President Warren, because Republicans can't beat her.
    Do you have some sort of Polling on that? Or are you guestimating again?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    thread detour ahead. apologies but i could not allow that above misinformation to stand without rebuttal:

    subprime mortgage is another expression for the term NONCONFORMING loan
    the NONCONFORMING parts describes that the mortgage loan does NOT meet the qualifying criteria imposed upon those who sought to sell their mortgages to the secondary market operated by fannie mae/freddie mac
    because it was NONCONFORMING - because it was "subprime" - such a mortgage had to be sold to another investor simply because one or more aspects of that mortgage loan failed to comply with the requirements established by fannie mae/freddie mac
    and that should explain why so many investors were devastated during the great recession, because they, instead of freddie mae/freddie mac, purchased such nonconforming/subprime mortgages as investments

    i now return the reader to the thread topic, how corporation have bought and paid for politicians to agree in back rooms to transfer investment risk to the taxpayer


    How is it a detour ? She's a Hack and a liar and a hypocritie and my post proves it.

    Not ONE word out of her when it comes to the unprecedented securities fraud and corruption that came out of the GSEs.

    And Fannie Mae was the largest consumer of " Non-conforming " loans.

    They were Country Wides favorite and PRIMARY customer.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Obama will NOT veto whatever gets sent to him for the simple fact that HE doesn't want to be responsible for shutting down the government.

    So you liberals/progressives/Democrats can cry and whine all you want about those mean Republicans. Work out a deal with them...or shut down the government.

    Your choice.


    You're Right about that Mycroft.


    Obama Bails Out Boehner On Spending Bill.....


    The White House issued a Statement of Administration Policy today in favor of the 1,600 omnibus spending bill that funds the entire federal government through September except for the Department of Homeland Security which is only funded through the end of February.

    Specifically, the White House objects to two policy riders attached to the bill. One, which modifies the Dodd-Frank law making it easier for banks to buy and sell certain financial products, and a second which increased the amount of money individuals are allowed to give to parties for national conventions.

    A procedural vote on the spending bill narrowly passed this afternoon by a 214-212 vote without any Democratic support. If no Democrat votes for final passage this afternoon, it is very likely the bill will fail. Republican leaders hope this White House statement will help them get some Democrats to vote for final passage.....snip~

    Obama Bails Out Boehner On Spending Bill - Conn Carroll

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do you have some sort of Polling on that? Or are you guestimating again?
    I'm basing it on the fact that Warren is a far better debater and can articulate and defend progressive policies better than Clinton, that progressives turn out and vote for true progressives (which Clinton is not), and that Republicans weed out viable candidates in the primaries (like they did Huntsman).

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I posted the bill and the contents of the bill from the Washington post on page two.
    It doesn't say what she says it says.

    There is simply an expansion of some of the derivatives that can be used. it does not totally get rid of dodd frank all together.
    and these are derivatives that all banks have wanted to allow back in to begin with.
    According to Warren:

    This was a provision added by CitiGroup lobbyists, Warren told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow. I mean, they literally wrote it. They took it back, re-edited it and made sure it said exactly what they wanted it to say.

    The provision, which Warren said was added by surprise, would eliminate a requirement under the Dodd-Frank financial reform law that banks trade financial derivatives separately from regular bank accounts, which are protected through the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).
    This was a provision added by CitiGroup lobbyists, Warren told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow. I mean, they literally wrote it. They took it back, re-edited it and made sure it said exactly what they wanted it to say.

    The provision, which Warren said was added by surprise, would eliminate a requirement under the Dodd-Frank financial reform law that banks trade financial derivatives separately from regular bank accounts, which are protected through the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).
    Sen. Elizabeth Warren: GOP did bankers’ bidding with surprise change to ‘cromnibus’ spending bill
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Wall Street and corporations influencing the creation of bills is agreed by everybody to be at the core of everything that's wrong with Washington. Unless it's Elizabeth Warren who's doing the criticizing, in which case Conservatives agree that corporate and Wall Street influence is sweeter than the singing of the sweet baby Jesus.
    According to Warren, it was actually people at CityGroup who penned the damn provision themselves. They even made last minute edits.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Please read the link I posted.

    it was something that all banks wanted not just citigroup. it doesn't undo frank/dodd but it does expand some of the derivatives that banks can use.
    Warren is not being completely honest in what she is saying.

    it doesn't eliminate the requirement. it expands it to include more derivatives something all banks have been seeking for years now.
    what is in the bill > than what warren distorts the bill to say.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You're Right about that Mycroft.


    Obama Bails Out Boehner On Spending Bill.....


    The White House issued a Statement of Administration Policy today in favor of the 1,600 omnibus spending bill that funds the entire federal government through September except for the Department of Homeland Security which is only funded through the end of February.

    Specifically, the White House objects to two policy riders attached to the bill. One, which modifies the Dodd-Frank law making it easier for banks to buy and sell certain financial products, and a second which increased the amount of money individuals are allowed to give to parties for national conventions.

    A procedural vote on the spending bill narrowly passed this afternoon by a 214-212 vote without any Democratic support. If no Democrat votes for final passage this afternoon, it is very likely the bill will fail. Republican leaders hope this White House statement will help them get some Democrats to vote for final passage.....snip~

    Obama Bails Out Boehner On Spending Bill - Conn Carroll
    yea republicans aren't happy because it doesn't contain the immigration stoppage that they are looking for, but they are trying to hold that off till the new congress
    that is why they limit HLD till feb.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Shut it down. Liberals don't negotiate with terrorists.
    Heh, you mean they don't negotiate with their own?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Dems will kill the bill, and they have some strange bedfellows in doing it..... The Tea Party, who also want to kill the bill, albeit for different reasons. It's why Boehner pulled the bill off the floor today. He doesn't have the votes to pass it.
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