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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no one is saying they not build that
    the point is they did not build it without any assistance
    Just my opinion, but I think the government does more to hinder the opportunity to build a business than they do to assist the opportunity to build a business.

    The government should stop trying to "help" so much. That way they wouldn't need to try to shame me into supporting their increases in spending, power and control.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no one is saying they not build that the point is they did not build it without any assistance
    The government doesn't assist anyone. It is 100% dependent on the people. All they do is collect money, spend it, and gain credit for spending it, occasionally, on infrastructure. They deserve no credit for any of that. Instead they should be strongly encouraged to spend it more wisely, and not continue borrowing money in the people's name..

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no one is saying they not build that
    the point is they did not build it without any assistance
    Obama did.

    Warren did.

    Clinton did.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Claiming to not be a Republican was catching after the 2012 election.
    Did you feel that way for the 2014 one?

    Strange coalition with Senators Cruz and Warren being against this crimenibus, but for vastly different reasons .
    No claim. Just information. In truth I despise the concept of polical parties and would never belong to one. They are equally evil to me. I dislike the omnibus bill for yet another reason. I want less government - a lot less. I would withhold money from the government it I could until it gtets itself under control.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Obama did.

    Warren did.

    Clinton did.
    they each said what i posted
    wealth was not created without state assistance
    in every instance
    a reality anathema to the white wing
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You answered your own question. Every one has the opportunity to build a business, but only those with the motivation and ability do it. In other words, they DID BUILD THAT.

    You win a brief moment of clarity into your liberal mindset.
    You're correct in many respects, but you have to admit we all have help along the way. Nobody goes it alone. This is probably what Obama's speechwriters meant.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    You certainly insinuated it.
    Incorrect. I did nothing of the sort. Saying what I and many others believe will happen as a result of her consumer protection push is in no way insinuating that she supports the end result. What it means is that she has not thought out the end result because she isn't as clued in as some of you believe she is. She is a bankruptcy attorney, not an expert on the banking industry in this country.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Has anyone explained in this thread yet why this entire thing is political grandstanding over the revocation of a technical and arbitrary rule that has little to no impact on "derivatives trading" and risk allocation in the financial industry? Because this entire thing is pointless politicking. The push out rule is dumb and should be repealed.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    they each said what i posted
    wealth was not created without state assistance
    in every instance
    a reality anathema to the white wing

    And state assistance is not possible without taxes primarily from businesses and the wealthy.

    A reality anathema to the giveaway wing.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no one is saying they not build that
    the point is they did not build it without any assistance
    Of course they had assistance. The banks loaned them money…

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