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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Elizabeth Warren's lineage is utterly irrelevant to the passage of this bill.
    I find it completely relevant that Warren is so far above reproach that this is their best "scandal." As ridiculous as Birtherism was you could sort of dance to it, while this is just one giant wtf.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Another failed excessively, and needless complex piece of exponentially government growing POS legislation.



    Exactly. All that'd have to be done would be to bring back the Glass-Steagall act with a bit of freshening up.



    Yup. That too is stifling the economy and the recovery, and will continue to do so until they are repealed / lifted, and we've got all this government debt and ObamaCare bills that we have to pay for. Not time to be stifling the economy. It needs to be on turbo chargers.

    Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    also the bill isn't getting rid of all regulations on default swaps but expanding the ones that can be used.

    a large part of the lack of recovery was that lending and business investment was stifled under this administration.
    without the outflow of capital companies had a hard time expanding and generating revenue.


    Whatís in the spending bill? We skim it so you donít have to - The Washington Post

    here is a list of all the things in the budget.

    I really like the one that puts a clamp on the EPA clean water act over-reach.

    They are making the very same arguments they did in the 90's when the housing bubble issue became suddenly very expanded. I recall the debate here, to follow suit at relaxing regulations, and hearing all these wonderful arguments and to a degree believed them. We had a very conservative opposition leader at the time who fought the measure full tilt and got it before a Royal Commission, which recommended Canada TIGHTEN its regulations, and went further but denied investment credits for derivative investments of any %.

    Today, nearly seven years later, the US is showing signs of restoration, but thousands of people have been sent into poverty by the losses in their personal investments. Meanwhile, Canada never was in 'recession', did not need to bail anyone out, and the nation has prospered. The Canadian banking system is now envied globally, it's architect, the then Governor of the Bank of Canada is now heading up European banking and sorting out the socialist damage.

    The moral is, greed triumphs over recent experience.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    I only have time for one post tres, and you're the lucky choice.

    With limited time, try PoliticoHeadlines.com and you'll find all the stories folks are quoting/linking.

    To further trash DEMs, Wasserman-Schultz is on the sell-out side with Biden, Obama and Reid.
    Standing with Sarah palin against bank giveaways are DCCC chair Israel, Cummings, Warren and of course Pelosi.
    I'm actually enjoying this--the Pelosi--DWS war.

    GOP public dissent is mostly muted due to the silent whipping of McConnell.
    Look for the GOP fissures to reopen next year when hard-core CONs want pay-back on Obama from Boehner/McConnell.
    Boehner/McConnell want a productive term, keeping their majorities after the 2016 election .

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Hi Nimby, I agree with what you say here. I really don't believe that McConnell is that stupid. He has too many of his own coming up for re-election in 2016 which very likely could end up being a wave election for the Democrats (like 2008 and 2012). He isn't going to intentionally torpedo his majority. He will be much more willing to work with the Dems than I think everyone is assuming.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Building a border fence is a joke. What is required is real enforcement within the interior with real, and severe, penalties for anyone that employes illegal labor. We now have 10X as many federal TSA airport nannies as federal ICE agents. With up to 20 million illegals now inside the US, and those folks creating more US citizen "anchor babies" every day, it does not much matter if we make a "solid commitment" to better secure the border within a decade or so. We can currently remove only about 400K illegals per year and at considerable expense - meaning that to simply remove those illegals already here will take decades even if we managed to stop all new illegal entries tomorrow.
    I looked up the bill passed by the House this year and it seems to cover much of your concerns. Much more than just building a fence.


    (1) improve border security;


    (2) enforce laws and policies to stem the flow of illegal entries into the United States;


    (3) enact laws and implement new policies to stem the flow of illegal entries into the United States, including increasing penalties for human smuggling;



    (4) conduct public outreach campaigns to explain the dangers of the journey to the Southwest Border of the United States, emphasize the lack of immigration benefits available, and emphasize that illegal aliens will be removed to their country;


    (5) cooperate with United States Federal agencies to facilitate and expedite the return, repatriation, and reintegration of illegal migrants arriving at the Southwest Border
    Text of H.R.5230 as Placed on Calendar Senate: Secure the Southwest Border Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2014... OpenCongress

    I also remember Senator Thune of S. Dakota trying to get an amendment to the Immigration Bill that came out of the Senate that would have done the same thing. But the Democrats would have none of it.

    Oh well, now we have the Republicans funding Obama's E.O. Amnesty. Just marvelous!

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And yet you blindly accept that it's a lie. Think about that. I don't blindly accept that she's absolutely Native American, but what's there for me to deny or reject? It's not my family and it's not for me to say. Lots of people have different kinds of ancestry, and not everyone walks around with tidy little bundles of documentation for everything they have in their lineage.
    Isn't that convenient for you....Last night you attacked me for saying she lied about this, and she clearly used it on applications to Penn, and Harvard...Now you all the sudden when faced with the facts fold like a cheap suit and can't say because it isn't "Your family".... LOL, ok, then maybe you shouldn't have acted like you did last night if you didn't want to get it right back...Good day.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I find it completely relevant that Warren is so far above reproach that this is their best "scandal." As ridiculous as Birtherism was you could sort of dance to it, while this is just one giant wtf.
    Just say it, you accept liars when they are in alignment with your views.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    This is simply part of the GOP messaging war that the DEMs lost in the 2014 election.
    This one on Warren started as soon as she was elected, just as the one on Holder started in 2009 after his appointment--so many more examples.
    I don't see a let-up here as long as American voters continue to listen to these messaging wars and not the messages/issues .

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I find it completely relevant that Warren is so far above reproach that this is their best "scandal." As ridiculous as Birtherism was you could sort of dance to it, while this is just one giant wtf.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Isn't that convenient for you....Last night you attacked me for saying she lied about this, and she clearly used it on applications to Penn, and Harvard...Now you all the sudden when faced with the facts fold like a cheap suit and can't say because it isn't "Your family".... LOL, ok, then maybe you shouldn't have acted like you did last night if you didn't want to get it right back...Good day.
    And your claim that she lied is backed up by nothing more than your willingness to repeat it. I've read the various articles, fact checkers and snopes columns, and the general conclusion is that her use of her ancestry is nowhere near as juicy as her detractors would have you believe, and as there's no way to determine one way or the other her ancestry it's pointless to spend any more time on, let alone conclude anyone was lying. But I know you'll repeat this in the future anyway, because politics.

    Good day to you too.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    This is simply part of the GOP messaging war that the DEMs lost in the 2014 election.
    This one on Warren started as soon as she was elected, just as the one on Holder started in 2009 after his appointment--so many more examples.
    I don't see a let-up here as long as American voters continue to listen to these messaging wars and not the messages/issues .
    Hey there NIMBY...How you doing dude?

    Messaging is part of politics...Liberals do it too...Probably more effectively than Repubs could ever hope to...But the point is that Warren is nothing special, and to see how some react when she is called out on a blatant move of not only hypocrisy, but sheer political dumb assery, they fret how anyone could impeach her impeccable creds...It makes me retch...Nothing about her speaks integrity. At all.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And you know this how?
    By your previous post.

    You said "there's no way to determine one way or the other her ancestry" yet she did claim she knew she was native American when filling in the applications.

    As often happens, it's not the lie as much as the denials and the cover-up that does the harm.

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